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I fully expect this article to drop off the front page due to flagging in 3…2…1… like every other US politics story that gets posted on this site. It’s for sur

by gyomu 9mo ago

I fully expect this article to drop off the front page due to flagging in 3…2…1… like every other US politics story that gets posted on this site. It’s for sure one of the biggest blind spots of this community, which should come as no surprise but is still a shame as it would be nice to have the high level of discourse we can expect from other topics applied to this period that could easily be, for many of us, the most significant geopolitical event of our lifetimes. I’m curious if that’s a topic the mods have any thoughts on.

OutOfHere 9mo ago
It used to be that tech workers were utopian, but now a good half of them, including on this site, are plain fascists. This site is not a utopian dream. ICE is an extremely unprofessional agency and has no business existing at all in its current form. Abductions of citizens by ICE is real, is well documented across many incidents on many news sites, and it crosses a line.
- asciii 9mo ago
  It’s bit ironic that big tech invests so much in politics and engineers act like it’s beneath them. All technological progress tends to be political with its policy winds
  - burnt-resistor 9mo ago
    "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair
- fzeroracer 9mo ago
  The silence from tech companies says a million. There's a ton of huge companies and tech leaders with offices and businesses in Minneapolis and not one of them has had the spine to say anything about the occupation of their city or the people that have been unable to show up for work. I think increasingly tech workers are starting to understand the size of the issue. You can see the sentiment shifting in previous threads here and even when stories like this are flagged, they still float to the top of /active. That said, it's also obvious that there's a certain group of folks that immediately flag these stories the moment they pop up.
  - b3ing 9mo ago
    The only diversity most big tech companies hire are women, Asians and Indians. So no wonder they can care less.
on_the_train 9mo ago
[flagged]
burnt-resistor 9mo ago
The Flavor Aid drinkers and elite establishment liberals are both aligned in despise of open debate and discussion, even when what's going on is far more important than running Doom in Visual Basic on a microwave. That's the disconnect between reality; that politics is "unclean", "uncivilized", far removed, and doesn't matter; that people can't have respectful exchanges of ideas and need to be controlled like children, or that discussion needs to have somewhere else more "appropriate": which is all code for "STFU and take it because the status quo benefits us". Avoiding the 800 lbs. gorilla that's hurting you, the ones you love, and brainwashing others into doing their work for them is tone deaf and on the wrong side of history that paints all of tech as sinister and morally bankrupt.
card_zero 9mo ago
Heh. * HN has a high level of discourse, * This is ascribed partly to the guidelines, * The guidelines recommend we avoid the topics that usually result in squabbling, * But if only we could keep our act together, we have a rare opportunity for high level discourse on inflammatory topics! I kind of agree with you, but I'm terribly naive and I do a lot of wishful thinking.
marak830 9mo ago
If you use an alternative front end (I use hckrnews.com for example), that really isn't a risk. (I also have show dead enabled).

by gyomu 9mo ago

OutOfHere 9mo ago

It used to be that tech workers were utopian, but now a good half of them, including on this site, are plain fascists. This site is not a utopian dream. ICE is an extremely unprofessional agency and has no business existing at all in its current form. Abductions of citizens by ICE is real, is well documented across many incidents on many news sites, and it crosses a line.

asciii 9mo ago
It’s bit ironic that big tech invests so much in politics and engineers act like it’s beneath them. All technological progress tends to be political with its policy winds
- burnt-resistor 9mo ago
  "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair
fzeroracer 9mo ago
The silence from tech companies says a million. There's a ton of huge companies and tech leaders with offices and businesses in Minneapolis and not one of them has had the spine to say anything about the occupation of their city or the people that have been unable to show up for work. I think increasingly tech workers are starting to understand the size of the issue. You can see the sentiment shifting in previous threads here and even when stories like this are flagged, they still float to the top of /active. That said, it's also obvious that there's a certain group of folks that immediately flag these stories the moment they pop up.
- b3ing 9mo ago
  The only diversity most big tech companies hire are women, Asians and Indians. So no wonder they can care less.

on_the_train 9mo ago

[flagged]

burnt-resistor 9mo ago

The Flavor Aid drinkers and elite establishment liberals are both aligned in despise of open debate and discussion, even when what's going on is far more important than running Doom in Visual Basic on a microwave. That's the disconnect between reality; that politics is "unclean", "uncivilized", far removed, and doesn't matter; that people can't have respectful exchanges of ideas and need to be controlled like children, or that discussion needs to have somewhere else more "appropriate": which is all code for "STFU and take it because the status quo benefits us". Avoiding the 800 lbs. gorilla that's hurting you, the ones you love, and brainwashing others into doing their work for them is tone deaf and on the wrong side of history that paints all of tech as sinister and morally bankrupt.

card_zero 9mo ago

Heh. * HN has a high level of discourse, * This is ascribed partly to the guidelines, * The guidelines recommend we avoid the topics that usually result in squabbling, * But if only we could keep our act together, we have a rare opportunity for high level discourse on inflammatory topics! I kind of agree with you, but I'm terribly naive and I do a lot of wishful thinking.

marak830 9mo ago

If you use an alternative front end (I use hckrnews.com for example), that really isn't a risk. (I also have show dead enabled).