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Unfortunately no one will care because it’s not their city, they are told to wait until midterms, the media is failing to report or cover much of what is going

by b3ing 9mo ago

Unfortunately no one will care because it’s not their city, they are told to wait until midterms, the media is failing to report or cover much of what is going on and half the country thinks it’s ok because their party is behind it

vdupras 9mo ago
I'm curious what gives you the impression that no one cares. Anyone non-white in the US, regardless of their immigration and citizenship status, can expect to be harassed in the near future, so I'm guessing they care. Maybe they're afraid enough to be silenced, but that doesn't mean they don't care. Someone looking at HN front page could falsely get the impression that no one cares, but that's only because all ICE-related subjects are actively and relentlessly flagged. We never see them. You can have an idea of how much some of the HN crowd cares by visiting https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active more often.
- anal_reactor 9mo ago
  > Anyone non-white in the US This framing is exactly what led to the election of Trump in the first place. You're asking for empathy from people who already have too much shit of their own. You'll be much more successful if you manage to explain why current actions of ICE are bad for everyone, not only Latinos.
  - fernandopj 9mo ago
    This is not what OP said, at all. OP doesn't have to explain anything, or be "successful" explaining to you what the world is watching unfold in horror. It is factually and correctly stated that any non-white, non-100%-perfectly-English-speaking person is a suspect in ICE views, detainable with no recourse. They said it themselves, the administration said that themselves, and there's ample evidence online of them enjoying doing it. It is why people like me, who have legal status and business to conduct in USA are not gonna risk detention and deportation while ICE/DHS is operating. I'm Italian, my name is of Spanish origin, and I lived most of my life in Brazil so my accent is Brazilian. I have zero odds of convincing and ICE agent my passport isn't fake. So, I'm out of going to Vegas, or doing talks, or anything else I have enjoyed doing in the USA in the past.
    - anal_reactor 9mo ago
      > It is factually and correctly stated Being factually correct isn't always winning. Envoking correct emotions often is.
      - cindyllm 9mo ago
        [dead]
- drcongo 9mo ago
  There's some inception levels of irony in this (op) being posted on a platform that has a history of supporting white supremacist groups, which kinda suggests that even those who do care, can't actually be bothered to not be part of the problem.
  - tim-tday 9mo ago
    First I’ve heard of that. I’m going to call bullshit.
    - drcongo 9mo ago
      If only there was some kind of website where you could type in something like "white supremacists substack" and find out whether it was bullshit or not.
tim-tday 9mo ago
Pretty sure people care. A lot. My friend texted me. He’s white privileged, not often sympathetic or inclusive. He’s absolutely irate about what’s happening in Minnesota.

by b3ing 9mo ago

vdupras 9mo ago

I'm curious what gives you the impression that no one cares. Anyone non-white in the US, regardless of their immigration and citizenship status, can expect to be harassed in the near future, so I'm guessing they care. Maybe they're afraid enough to be silenced, but that doesn't mean they don't care. Someone looking at HN front page could falsely get the impression that no one cares, but that's only because all ICE-related subjects are actively and relentlessly flagged. We never see them. You can have an idea of how much some of the HN crowd cares by visiting https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active more often.

anal_reactor 9mo ago
> Anyone non-white in the US This framing is exactly what led to the election of Trump in the first place. You're asking for empathy from people who already have too much shit of their own. You'll be much more successful if you manage to explain why current actions of ICE are bad for everyone, not only Latinos.
- fernandopj 9mo ago
  This is not what OP said, at all. OP doesn't have to explain anything, or be "successful" explaining to you what the world is watching unfold in horror. It is factually and correctly stated that any non-white, non-100%-perfectly-English-speaking person is a suspect in ICE views, detainable with no recourse. They said it themselves, the administration said that themselves, and there's ample evidence online of them enjoying doing it. It is why people like me, who have legal status and business to conduct in USA are not gonna risk detention and deportation while ICE/DHS is operating. I'm Italian, my name is of Spanish origin, and I lived most of my life in Brazil so my accent is Brazilian. I have zero odds of convincing and ICE agent my passport isn't fake. So, I'm out of going to Vegas, or doing talks, or anything else I have enjoyed doing in the USA in the past.
  - anal_reactor 9mo ago
    > It is factually and correctly stated Being factually correct isn't always winning. Envoking correct emotions often is.
    - cindyllm 9mo ago
      [dead]
drcongo 9mo ago
There's some inception levels of irony in this (op) being posted on a platform that has a history of supporting white supremacist groups, which kinda suggests that even those who do care, can't actually be bothered to not be part of the problem.
- tim-tday 9mo ago
  First I’ve heard of that. I’m going to call bullshit.
  - drcongo 9mo ago
    If only there was some kind of website where you could type in something like "white supremacists substack" and find out whether it was bullshit or not.

tim-tday 9mo ago

Pretty sure people care. A lot. My friend texted me. He’s white privileged, not often sympathetic or inclusive. He’s absolutely irate about what’s happening in Minnesota.