> why we are wasting so much time on utterly wrong TOFU authorization? If you are supposed to have an establishable identity I think there is DNSSEC back to the

> why we are wasting so much time on utterly wrong TOFU authorization? If you are supposed to have an establishable identity I think there is DNSSEC back to the registrar They retire challenges that were once acceptable. What happens if they require a real chain of trust? They retire http and domain names keep working on DNS/DNSSEC. Making IP with only http challenges is going backwards.