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> The woman who got shot thought she was on a movie set, tried to act cool and then attempted to run over an officer. Citation needed. Absolutely wild to claim

> The woman who got shot thought she was on a movie set, tried to act cool and then attempted to run over an officer. Citation needed. Absolutely wild to claim to know the thoughts of a dead woman. Do you speak for the dead also? Shills keep bring up Obama deportations. Obama's administration primarily followed the law, observed due process and habeas corpus, didn't send people to concentration camps in other countries, and didn't shoot mother's in the head and then call them terrorists. It should be clear why the response is so different, there's no need to act naive

teoriket 9mo ago
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- NekkoDroid 9mo ago
  1. US Police is very well known to act on emotions instead of actual law or protocol 2. Killing her didn't make the officer safer, now he was being approached by an effectively driverless vehicle. 3. If you put yourself infront of the car for fuck all reason that is your fault, especially as a "LEO" you should know better, but I guess that is what you get when you employ power hungry people with 0 training.
  - harrisi 9mo ago
    For what it's worth, the ICE agent who shot Good, Jonathan Ross, worked for US Border Patrol for eight years and has been working for ICE for a decade. Further, "Ross testified in December that he was 'a firearms instructor, an active shooter instructor ... a field intelligence officer, and ... a member of the SWAT team, the St. Paul Special Response Team'."[0] So, not only not untrained, he is a trainer. [0]: https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-jonathan-ross-renee-good-shooting-firearms-trainer-testimony/ https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-jonathan-ross-renee-go...
    - defrost 9mo ago
      And yet he put himself in front of a vehicle that had a driver and a running engine, and partnered up with other agents who acted as a group with zero cohesion, issuing conflicting instructions, escalating the tension of a traffic infringement they had no actual legal authority to engage with. Every trained professional I've communicated with in regard to this incident has effectively shaken their head and referred to it as a clown show of epic proportions, a textbook example of how not to engage with the public, an example of how authoritarian states deal with people they have no regard for. Let's be honest, a great many US enforcement types come to firearms use with an any excuse approach coupled with an absence of ability to de-escalate situations. They act like walking cans of petrol looking for a tinder to throw themselves on.
      - harrisi 9mo ago
        Just to be clear, I think the situation is disgusting, entirely unprofessional, and intentionally violent. Maybe the shooter didn't make those mistakes to have a reason for murder, but the idea that someone of his experience would make such a completely foolish mistake is absurd. Nobody, as far as I know, has any intention of hitting me with their car. Yet, for about a dozen simple reasons, if I'm crossing a walkway, driveway, or whatever with a car also trying to enter the road by driving through the area I'm walking, I often will walk behind the vehicle. People make mistakes. There are blind spots. Maybe they're having an emergency. Maybe they're intoxicated. Or maybe they do want to hit someone with their car. It's just absurd to think this was appropriate behavior by a seasoned professional. It's not even the appropriate behavior for a reasonably developed child.

teoriket 9mo ago

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NekkoDroid 9mo ago
1. US Police is very well known to act on emotions instead of actual law or protocol 2. Killing her didn't make the officer safer, now he was being approached by an effectively driverless vehicle. 3. If you put yourself infront of the car for fuck all reason that is your fault, especially as a "LEO" you should know better, but I guess that is what you get when you employ power hungry people with 0 training.
- harrisi 9mo ago
  For what it's worth, the ICE agent who shot Good, Jonathan Ross, worked for US Border Patrol for eight years and has been working for ICE for a decade. Further, "Ross testified in December that he was 'a firearms instructor, an active shooter instructor ... a field intelligence officer, and ... a member of the SWAT team, the St. Paul Special Response Team'."[0] So, not only not untrained, he is a trainer. [0]: https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-jonathan-ross-renee-good-shooting-firearms-trainer-testimony/ https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-jonathan-ross-renee-go...
  - defrost 9mo ago
    And yet he put himself in front of a vehicle that had a driver and a running engine, and partnered up with other agents who acted as a group with zero cohesion, issuing conflicting instructions, escalating the tension of a traffic infringement they had no actual legal authority to engage with. Every trained professional I've communicated with in regard to this incident has effectively shaken their head and referred to it as a clown show of epic proportions, a textbook example of how not to engage with the public, an example of how authoritarian states deal with people they have no regard for. Let's be honest, a great many US enforcement types come to firearms use with an any excuse approach coupled with an absence of ability to de-escalate situations. They act like walking cans of petrol looking for a tinder to throw themselves on.
    - harrisi 9mo ago
      Just to be clear, I think the situation is disgusting, entirely unprofessional, and intentionally violent. Maybe the shooter didn't make those mistakes to have a reason for murder, but the idea that someone of his experience would make such a completely foolish mistake is absurd. Nobody, as far as I know, has any intention of hitting me with their car. Yet, for about a dozen simple reasons, if I'm crossing a walkway, driveway, or whatever with a car also trying to enter the road by driving through the area I'm walking, I often will walk behind the vehicle. People make mistakes. There are blind spots. Maybe they're having an emergency. Maybe they're intoxicated. Or maybe they do want to hit someone with their car. It's just absurd to think this was appropriate behavior by a seasoned professional. It's not even the appropriate behavior for a reasonably developed child.