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LM, nthash aka NTLM, net-ntlmv1 aka ntlmv1, net-ntlmv2 aka NTLMv2. Challenge response stuff is different. Naming here is painful.

dbetteridge 9mo ago
Ah Microsoft and naming things... Name a better combo But fair enough, I don't recall which exact version I was mucking with that long ago.
- coopreme 9mo ago
  Ya they just announced they are renaming security algos to copilot!!! story here -> https://dubious-adware-breach-scam@is.gd/WVZvnI?exploit.bat https://dubious-adware-breach-scam@is.gd/WVZvnI?exploit.bat
  - phanimahesh 9mo ago
    Love this. Classic microsoft.
- CableNinja 9mo ago
  A few years ago i was doing some vm things in azure. Hadnt touched azure before, and spent 10+ minutes of frustration trying to figure out how to get amd64/x86_64 things started, as the only thing i could find was "Azure ARM", and on googling, "arm" here means azure resource manager... ARGH why does microsoft insist on using existing names and acronyms!?!?
  - antonkochubey 9mo ago
    Because in their eyes if something was not invented here, it may as well not exist :-) they haven’t managed to cure this sickness in decades.
  - Greed 9mo ago
    I was part of a user study on Azure back when it first rolled out-- they were looking for seniors with an AWS background to participate in UX research, and I remember walking out of that study with imposter syndrome for the very first time. Spent 60 minutes totally unable to do the thing I wanted to do when I was introduced to Azure for the first time, and I remember thinking... am I a fraud? No! Not this time, at least. In hindsight everything was named and organized terribly and it hasn't improved much since.
bri3d 9mo ago
net-ntlmv1 rainbow tables have been around forever too though, the same attack documented in this blog post has been hosted as a web service at https://crack.sh/netntlm/ https://crack.sh/netntlm/ for 10+ years
- 1over137 9mo ago
  Yeah, but now it's Google! Google!

dbetteridge 9mo ago

Ah Microsoft and naming things... Name a better combo But fair enough, I don't recall which exact version I was mucking with that long ago.

coopreme 9mo ago
Ya they just announced they are renaming security algos to copilot!!! story here -> https://dubious-adware-breach-scam@is.gd/WVZvnI?exploit.bat https://dubious-adware-breach-scam@is.gd/WVZvnI?exploit.bat
- phanimahesh 9mo ago
  Love this. Classic microsoft.
CableNinja 9mo ago
A few years ago i was doing some vm things in azure. Hadnt touched azure before, and spent 10+ minutes of frustration trying to figure out how to get amd64/x86_64 things started, as the only thing i could find was "Azure ARM", and on googling, "arm" here means azure resource manager... ARGH why does microsoft insist on using existing names and acronyms!?!?
- antonkochubey 9mo ago
  Because in their eyes if something was not invented here, it may as well not exist :-) they haven’t managed to cure this sickness in decades.
- Greed 9mo ago
  I was part of a user study on Azure back when it first rolled out-- they were looking for seniors with an AWS background to participate in UX research, and I remember walking out of that study with imposter syndrome for the very first time. Spent 60 minutes totally unable to do the thing I wanted to do when I was introduced to Azure for the first time, and I remember thinking... am I a fraud? No! Not this time, at least. In hindsight everything was named and organized terribly and it hasn't improved much since.

bri3d 9mo ago

net-ntlmv1 rainbow tables have been around forever too though, the same attack documented in this blog post has been hosted as a web service at https://crack.sh/netntlm/ https://crack.sh/netntlm/ for 10+ years

1over137 9mo ago
Yeah, but now it's Google! Google!