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Wait... People want to escape from communist countries?
by TacticalCoder 9mo ago
Wait... People want to escape from communist countries?
- nephihaha 9mo agoRemember the GDR called the Berlin Wall the "Antifascist Protection Barrier"
- immibis 9mo agoI believe the USA-Mexico border wall was called something similar
- nephihaha 9mo agoThat wall is to keep people out from another state, not in.
- 0928374082 9mo agoAfter all, they kept Paul Robeson in by simply pulling his passport, no wall needed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Robeson#:~:text=A%20month%20after,in%20foreign%20countries%22%2e https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Robeson#:~:text=A%20month...
- nephihaha 9mo agoI don't need to go to Wikipedia to read about Robeson. Guy became a Stalin fan and crumbled mentally when he realised the USSR was not what it claimed. Great singer though.
- 0928374082 9mo agoI think part of what they didn't like was that in Old Man River, instead of singing: Git a little drunk An' you lands in jail for Moscow audiences he sang: Show a little grit And you land in jail
- thatcat 9mo agoThat's how east berlin marketed it too, it still features bi-directional blocking abilities, like all walls.
- RobotToaster 9mo agoThere were no fascists in the DDR. There are fascists in the former DDR today. So I guess it worked.
- bentley 9mo ago> There were no fascists in the DDR. That was certainly the party line of the DDR at the time. Do you honestly believe it? It’s no coincidence that Vladimir Putin, a former KGB man who served in East Germany, claims that his war in Ukraine is justified in the name of denazification. It’s an easy rhetorical trick. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#Allegations_of_Nazism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation_in_the_Russian_...
- nephihaha 9mo agoI believe this about as much as the Chinese Communist official who claimed that there were no homosexuals in the PRC. In reality, a lot of careerists shifted their loyalties from the National Socialist government to the Communist one. There were several years in which the Communists, much like their western counterparts, tried to weed out all the Nazis, before realising many of them were experienced in administering things. (The Eastern Bloc had its own smaller version of Operation Paperclip, although the scientists tended to be less willing.)
- tirant 9mo agoThe fascists were everywhere in the DDR: just called members of the party or as part of the Stasi. And I take the definition of fascists as anyone who prioritizes their political system, State or political view to a point of depriving any other citizen of their basic freedom.
- razakel 9mo agoAuthoritarianism isn't the same thing as fascism.
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- prmoustache 9mo agoA communist country has never existed and never will so we will never know. Communism is a lovely idea on paper but a complete utopia due to human nature. We are nearly all motherfuckers who if given the chance will try to obtain more power or more wealth than our peers in a group of any size. Thus you can't have all citizens of a given country agree on abandoning private ownership and sharing wealth, work and power in equal terms. Any government that pretended to do that was just faking it and forced their citizens to pretend.
- echelon_musk 9mo ago> Communism is a lovely idea on paper but a complete utopia dystopia ?
- immibis 9mo agoCommunism is the idea of "can't we all just get along?" which is obviously not something you can actually implement, but is easily used as a buzzword by evil regimes. Remember, H-tl-r called his regime "socialist", much the same way N-rth K-rea calls itself "democratic"
- _ink_ 9mo agoYou can spell out Hitler and North Korea here. Meta has no power here.
- immibis 9mo agoIncorrect. Users are running autoflag bots.
- ranger_danger 9mo agoEvery day you make comments that are downvoted (and probably flagged) by several people... I think it's quite possible that the real issue is not "other people." Usually people who feel (or are) targeted are not 100% innocent.