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The same ways Vercel makes it harder to deploy Next.js sites to competitors or for self hosting.

by HumanOstrich 9mo ago

fady0 9mo ago
Next.js isn't just a static site generator.
- HumanOstrich 9mo ago
  Astro isn't just a static site generator either. Not sure what your point is.
  - mynameisvlad 9mo ago
    [flagged]
    - HumanOstrich 9mo ago
      Did YOU even bother to look at their site? They support more than static generation, including SSR and even API endpoints. That means Astro has a server that can run server-side (or serverless) to do more than static site generation, so it's not just a static site generator either. And yes I can see you're posting the same lie all over the comments here. Stop being a potty mouth.
theturtletalks 9mo ago
Vercel does not make Next.js hard to deploy elsewhere. Next.js runs fine on serverful platforms like Railway, Render, and Heroku. I have run a production Next.js SaaS on Railway for years with no issues. What Vercel really did was make Next.js work well in serverless environments, which involves a lot of custom infrastructure [0]. Cloudflare wanted that same behavior on CF Workers, but Vercel never open-sourced how they do it, and that is not really their responsibility. Next.js is not locked to Vercel. The friction shows up when trying to run it in a serverless model without building the same kind of platform Vercel has. 0. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIVL4JMqRfc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIVL4JMqRfc
- NicoJuicy 9mo ago
  So it is vendor locked by Vercel. That's why there is OpenNext - https://opennext.js.org/ https://opennext.js.org/
  - philipallstar 9mo ago
    How is it vendor locked?
    - NicoJuicy 9mo ago
      Recent features are more dependent on Vercel and it's OpenNext that makes it platform independent with adapters.
Capricorn2481 9mo ago
Can you describe what you mean here? Because I have heard this about 100 times and never understood what people mean when they say this. I am hosting a NextJS site without Vercel and I had no special consideration for it.

The same ways Vercel makes it harder to deploy Next.js sites to competitors or for self hosting.

fady0 9mo ago

Next.js isn't just a static site generator.

HumanOstrich 9mo ago
Astro isn't just a static site generator either. Not sure what your point is.
- mynameisvlad 9mo ago
  [flagged]
  - HumanOstrich 9mo ago
    Did YOU even bother to look at their site? They support more than static generation, including SSR and even API endpoints. That means Astro has a server that can run server-side (or serverless) to do more than static site generation, so it's not just a static site generator either. And yes I can see you're posting the same lie all over the comments here. Stop being a potty mouth.

theturtletalks 9mo ago

Vercel does not make Next.js hard to deploy elsewhere. Next.js runs fine on serverful platforms like Railway, Render, and Heroku. I have run a production Next.js SaaS on Railway for years with no issues. What Vercel really did was make Next.js work well in serverless environments, which involves a lot of custom infrastructure [0]. Cloudflare wanted that same behavior on CF Workers, but Vercel never open-sourced how they do it, and that is not really their responsibility. Next.js is not locked to Vercel. The friction shows up when trying to run it in a serverless model without building the same kind of platform Vercel has. 0. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIVL4JMqRfc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIVL4JMqRfc

NicoJuicy 9mo ago
So it is vendor locked by Vercel. That's why there is OpenNext - https://opennext.js.org/ https://opennext.js.org/
- philipallstar 9mo ago
  How is it vendor locked?
  - NicoJuicy 9mo ago
    Recent features are more dependent on Vercel and it's OpenNext that makes it platform independent with adapters.

Capricorn2481 9mo ago

Can you describe what you mean here? Because I have heard this about 100 times and never understood what people mean when they say this. I am hosting a NextJS site without Vercel and I had no special consideration for it.