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> We keep your conversations with ChatGPT private from advertisers, and we never sell your data to advertisers. Are they mincing words here? By selling your da

by rdtsc 9mo ago

> We keep your conversations with ChatGPT private from advertisers, and we never sell your data to advertisers. Are they mincing words here? By selling your data they mean they'll never package the raw chats and send them whoever is buying ads. Ok, neither does Google. But they'll clearly build detailed profiles on every preference or product you mention, your age, your location, etc. so they know what ads to show you? "See this is not your data, it's just preference bits".

qnleigh 9mo ago
> You can turn off personalization, and you can clear the data used for ads at any time So yes, it sounds like they'll do exactly what you say. And they will probably have much better user data than Google gets from search, because people divulge so much in chats. I wonder how creepily relevant these ads will get...
mikkupikku 9mo ago
"We don't sell your data. We sell OUR data about you!"
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elicash 9mo ago
> But they'll clearly build detailed profiles on every preference or product you mention, your age, your location, etc. so they know what ads to show you? I'd guess an advertiser can ask OpenAI "show this ad to people between 18-34?", and then certainly anyone who clicks and then buys they'd know is 18-34 since they knew they came from the ad. But that there's no way for advertisers to directly buy a list of folks who are 18-34 but don't buy something from their website. That's how it often works and seems in the spirit of the sentence you quoted.
MattRix 9mo ago
It does seem like that is a pretty fundamental difference. They aren’t giving anything to advertisers, just letting them target ads to users who fit in certain categories or whatever.
ACCount37 9mo ago
The difference is that they don't want to be the cheap user data peddler #2942. They want to do what Facebook and Google do and use their user data in their own ecosystem to squeeze all the value out of it.

by rdtsc 9mo ago

qnleigh 9mo ago

> You can turn off personalization, and you can clear the data used for ads at any time So yes, it sounds like they'll do exactly what you say. And they will probably have much better user data than Google gets from search, because people divulge so much in chats. I wonder how creepily relevant these ads will get...

mikkupikku 9mo ago

"We don't sell your data. We sell OUR data about you!"

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elicash 9mo ago

> But they'll clearly build detailed profiles on every preference or product you mention, your age, your location, etc. so they know what ads to show you? I'd guess an advertiser can ask OpenAI "show this ad to people between 18-34?", and then certainly anyone who clicks and then buys they'd know is 18-34 since they knew they came from the ad. But that there's no way for advertisers to directly buy a list of folks who are 18-34 but don't buy something from their website. That's how it often works and seems in the spirit of the sentence you quoted.

MattRix 9mo ago

It does seem like that is a pretty fundamental difference. They aren’t giving anything to advertisers, just letting them target ads to users who fit in certain categories or whatever.

ACCount37 9mo ago

The difference is that they don't want to be the cheap user data peddler #2942. They want to do what Facebook and Google do and use their user data in their own ecosystem to squeeze all the value out of it.