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I don't understand this reasoning. For a moment, assume you're a Facebook user. There's been a rash of reporting on cyber-bullying via Facebook lately - with

I don't understand this reasoning. For a moment, assume you're a Facebook user. There's been a rash of reporting on cyber-bullying via Facebook lately - with some tragic cases of youngsters committing suicide from the despicable actions of their online torturers. Do you intend to renounce your Facebook account also? What reasonable person would associate you with this type of deplorable behavior because you are also a Facebook user? If someone who is so ignorant that they would associate you with cyber-bullying simply because you're also a Facebook user, would you really care about the opinion of this person, and would their opinion actually matter? There will always be a particularly ignorant portion of the population that will conflate membership in a group with the actions of a subgroup. This has been true for rock music, MySpace, Facebook, rap music, goths, homosexuality, and beyond. Why pander to these individuals and let their ignorance dictate your actions? I can understand the angle of "I find this content disgusting, and I am disappointed that Reddit is not taking a hard stance against it" - if that's your position, I get you 100%. But the whole association thing I don't get.

tptacek 14y ago
Facebook does not publicly tolerate the use of their service to harass minors. Does this memo from the Reddit CEO sound like something Zuckerberg would say? It doesn't to me.
- eco 14y ago
  My understanding is that the overwhelming majority of "jailbait" images that were posted on Reddit came from Facebook by way of 4chan (or at least that's what violentacrez, the mod of the now closed /r/jailbait subreddit, claims). Yesterday Facebook suggested I Like the "Sexy Teenagers" group (which had 49k Likes). Facebook is hardly a good example of place that isn't allowing the sexualization of minors.
jgrahamc 14y ago
It would come down to whether Facebook had done anything about the problem or not. If Facebook had said "that's free speech and we're leaving it alone" then I would have been upset and wanted to take action (which might have meant deleting my Facebook account). I do think a lot of the content that's been talked about is disgusting. I'm not disappointed that reddit is not taking a hard stance on the matter. They have decided to uphold a notion of free speech, but given that the site will be associated with this content in the mind of the general public I would rather not be part of it.
- prodigal_erik 14y ago
  > given that the site will be associated with this content in the mind of the general public I would rather not be part of it This is why pseudonymity is so crucial. Lack of it is a recipe for getting our civilization stuck on popular, noncontroversial ideas. There could be some validity to content you are pressured to publicly shun (though I acknowledge underwear pictures are not a good example).
  - jgrahamc 14y ago
    Yes. And had I chosen to use a pseudonym on reddit rather than my real identity, then I doubt I would have deleted my account because I would not have felt that I was anyway associated with the content.

tptacek 14y ago

Facebook does not publicly tolerate the use of their service to harass minors. Does this memo from the Reddit CEO sound like something Zuckerberg would say? It doesn't to me.

eco 14y ago
My understanding is that the overwhelming majority of "jailbait" images that were posted on Reddit came from Facebook by way of 4chan (or at least that's what violentacrez, the mod of the now closed /r/jailbait subreddit, claims). Yesterday Facebook suggested I Like the "Sexy Teenagers" group (which had 49k Likes). Facebook is hardly a good example of place that isn't allowing the sexualization of minors.

jgrahamc 14y ago

It would come down to whether Facebook had done anything about the problem or not. If Facebook had said "that's free speech and we're leaving it alone" then I would have been upset and wanted to take action (which might have meant deleting my Facebook account). I do think a lot of the content that's been talked about is disgusting. I'm not disappointed that reddit is not taking a hard stance on the matter. They have decided to uphold a notion of free speech, but given that the site will be associated with this content in the mind of the general public I would rather not be part of it.

prodigal_erik 14y ago
> given that the site will be associated with this content in the mind of the general public I would rather not be part of it This is why pseudonymity is so crucial. Lack of it is a recipe for getting our civilization stuck on popular, noncontroversial ideas. There could be some validity to content you are pressured to publicly shun (though I acknowledge underwear pictures are not a good example).
- jgrahamc 14y ago
  Yes. And had I chosen to use a pseudonym on reddit rather than my real identity, then I doubt I would have deleted my account because I would not have felt that I was anyway associated with the content.