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Thanks for reminding me why I don't have a Spotify account.

by jqpabc123 10mo ago

chistev 10mo ago
What do you use?
- deejaaymac 10mo ago
  I personally use jellyfin and supply the media myself, though there are much better ways to do it. Alternative: https://nuclearplayer.com/ https://nuclearplayer.com/
  - mahmoudhossam 10mo ago
    There is also navidrome https://navidrome.org https://navidrome.org
    - GlitchRider47 10mo ago
      I just started using Finamp for Android https://github.com/jmshrv/finamp https://github.com/jmshrv/finamp I recommend the beta edition as the UI is quite evolved from the previous version.
  - doubled112 10mo ago
    That testimonials section is pretty incredible, to the point I'm not sure if the whole thing is satire or not.
  - chistev 10mo ago
    I want to support the artists, though.
    - atoav 10mo ago
      Then buy the record at bandcamp. My band made 10 times more in a month at bandcamp than in 4 years of spotify.
      - listenallyall 10mo ago
        "Whoa, whoa, slow your roll... when I said I wanted to support the artists, I was talking about ensuring they receive a fraction of a penny! Ain't nobody got $15 to throw around for an album!"
        atoav 10mo ago
        The way I see it, we all should pirate music and buy as directly as possible from the bands/artists we want to support. I shelled out quite some money for musicians whose music pirated when I was a teenager. Ethically it may not be 100% sound, but if I apply the golden rule ("Treat others the way you want to be treated") it is totally the way to go for me.
- FireBeyond 10mo ago
  If you're actually looking for a streaming service that is more respectful of artists, Tidal (though I have a feeling it may not last). They pay up to 10x per stream in royalties, and also have a more equitable algorithm (Spotify pushes an unfair weight to more popular artists across their service, regardless of your personal streaming).
  - listenallyall 10mo ago
    What's unfair about it?
    - FireBeyond 10mo ago
      Spotify keeps approximately 30% of subscription and ad revenues. The remaining approximately 70% goes into one big pool. That pool is distributed based on share of total streams. So if there are 1 trillion streams total and an artist gets 1 billion of them, they get 0.1% of the entire payout pool. You are not paid by your listeners — you are paid in proportion to everyone else’s listening. So if you pay $10/month and listens only to niche artists: - your money still goes into the global pool - it is mostly paid out to Drake, Taylor Swift, Bad Bunny, etc. - even if you never listen to them
      - listenallyall 10mo ago
        But your streams are counted (just like everyone else's) in determining the total percentage of streams for which each artist was responsible. Those niche artists you like get a boost when you listen. What you described sounds absolutely fair and democratic.
- mmh0000 10mo ago
  The pirate bay + musicbrainz + foobar2000

Thanks for reminding me why I don't have a Spotify account.

chistev 10mo ago

What do you use?

deejaaymac 10mo ago
I personally use jellyfin and supply the media myself, though there are much better ways to do it. Alternative: https://nuclearplayer.com/ https://nuclearplayer.com/
- mahmoudhossam 10mo ago
  There is also navidrome https://navidrome.org https://navidrome.org
  - GlitchRider47 10mo ago
    I just started using Finamp for Android https://github.com/jmshrv/finamp https://github.com/jmshrv/finamp I recommend the beta edition as the UI is quite evolved from the previous version.
- doubled112 10mo ago
  That testimonials section is pretty incredible, to the point I'm not sure if the whole thing is satire or not.
- chistev 10mo ago
  I want to support the artists, though.
  - atoav 10mo ago
    Then buy the record at bandcamp. My band made 10 times more in a month at bandcamp than in 4 years of spotify.
    - listenallyall 10mo ago
      "Whoa, whoa, slow your roll... when I said I wanted to support the artists, I was talking about ensuring they receive a fraction of a penny! Ain't nobody got $15 to throw around for an album!"
      - atoav 10mo ago
        The way I see it, we all should pirate music and buy as directly as possible from the bands/artists we want to support. I shelled out quite some money for musicians whose music pirated when I was a teenager. Ethically it may not be 100% sound, but if I apply the golden rule ("Treat others the way you want to be treated") it is totally the way to go for me.
FireBeyond 10mo ago
If you're actually looking for a streaming service that is more respectful of artists, Tidal (though I have a feeling it may not last). They pay up to 10x per stream in royalties, and also have a more equitable algorithm (Spotify pushes an unfair weight to more popular artists across their service, regardless of your personal streaming).
- listenallyall 10mo ago
  What's unfair about it?
  - FireBeyond 10mo ago
    Spotify keeps approximately 30% of subscription and ad revenues. The remaining approximately 70% goes into one big pool. That pool is distributed based on share of total streams. So if there are 1 trillion streams total and an artist gets 1 billion of them, they get 0.1% of the entire payout pool. You are not paid by your listeners — you are paid in proportion to everyone else’s listening. So if you pay $10/month and listens only to niche artists: - your money still goes into the global pool - it is mostly paid out to Drake, Taylor Swift, Bad Bunny, etc. - even if you never listen to them
    - listenallyall 10mo ago
      But your streams are counted (just like everyone else's) in determining the total percentage of streams for which each artist was responsible. Those niche artists you like get a boost when you listen. What you described sounds absolutely fair and democratic.
mmh0000 10mo ago
The pirate bay + musicbrainz + foobar2000