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Once they put ads in it the algorithms will optimize for engagement and time on platform, not returning useful (let alone correct) information. This works for F

Once they put ads in it the algorithms will optimize for engagement and time on platform, not returning useful (let alone correct) information. This works for Facebook cause Facebook is essentially entertainment, but I think this will kill ChatGPT as a useful tool.

thornewolf 9mo ago
while we can't trust their word as absolute truth, they did specifically say they still not do this in the article
- rurp 9mo ago
  They aren't going to do this right now, but they almost certainly will in the medium term. It would be legitimately shocking if they didn't continue to follow the same path as Google, Facebook, and pretty much every other big tech comp. In OpenAI's case they have even more incentive to abuse their users since they collect so much detailed personable data and have ways to make ads unblockable by including them in outputs and skewing model weights. I've seen absolutely nothing from the company, it's CEO, or investors that make me think they won't do the normal thing of gradually making the product worse in order to wring more value out of their users.
- nerdsniper 9mo ago
  Oh, you sweet summer child. Promises like these are made to be broken [0][1][2]. They would need a mechanism for contractual or regulatory enforcement for these words to carry any weight at all. What makes you think we should give these promises any more weight than promises that OpenAI already[3][4][5] broke? 0: "Every ad on Google is clearly marked and set apart from the actual search results." https://archive.md/fiK4E#selection-219.13-219.95 https://archive.md/fiK4E#selection-219.13-219.95 1: "Every Google result now looks like an ad" (which means every ad looks like a search result) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22107823 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22107823 2: "Google breaks 2005 promise never to show banner ads on search results" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6605312 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6605312 3: (2024) "OpenAI is developing Media Manager, a tool that will enable creators and content owners to tell us what they own and specify how they want their works to be included or excluded from machine learning research and training." https://openai.com/index/approach-to-data-and-ai/ https://openai.com/index/approach-to-data-and-ai/ 4: (2023) "OpenAI promised 20% of its computing power to combat existential risks from AI — but never delivered" https://fortune.com/2024/05/21/openai-superalignment-20-compute-commitment-never-fulfilled-sutskever-leike-altman-brockman-murati/ https://fortune.com/2024/05/21/openai-superalignment-20-comp... 5: (2025) "REPORT: The OpenAI Files Document Broken Promises" https://techoversight.org/2025/06/18/openai-files-report/ https://techoversight.org/2025/06/18/openai-files-report/
asdff 9mo ago
The long con is already happening. Some unis are going full tilt on AI. Having mandatory AI courses. Buying chatgpt subscriptions for the students. Making them use ai for certain exercises. Ostensibly it is "preparing them for AI in the workforce" but in practice it is actually shaping up the workforce to be dependent on AI. Get an entire generation of workers to reach for chatgpt to do anything at all and suddenly it doesn't matter if it is less efficient than older methods since no one working will know them.
kajaktum 9mo ago
Thats the funny part. Its not used as an informational tool

thornewolf 9mo ago

while we can't trust their word as absolute truth, they did specifically say they still not do this in the article

rurp 9mo ago
They aren't going to do this right now, but they almost certainly will in the medium term. It would be legitimately shocking if they didn't continue to follow the same path as Google, Facebook, and pretty much every other big tech comp. In OpenAI's case they have even more incentive to abuse their users since they collect so much detailed personable data and have ways to make ads unblockable by including them in outputs and skewing model weights. I've seen absolutely nothing from the company, it's CEO, or investors that make me think they won't do the normal thing of gradually making the product worse in order to wring more value out of their users.
nerdsniper 9mo ago
Oh, you sweet summer child. Promises like these are made to be broken [0][1][2]. They would need a mechanism for contractual or regulatory enforcement for these words to carry any weight at all. What makes you think we should give these promises any more weight than promises that OpenAI already[3][4][5] broke? 0: "Every ad on Google is clearly marked and set apart from the actual search results." https://archive.md/fiK4E#selection-219.13-219.95 https://archive.md/fiK4E#selection-219.13-219.95 1: "Every Google result now looks like an ad" (which means every ad looks like a search result) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22107823 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22107823 2: "Google breaks 2005 promise never to show banner ads on search results" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6605312 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6605312 3: (2024) "OpenAI is developing Media Manager, a tool that will enable creators and content owners to tell us what they own and specify how they want their works to be included or excluded from machine learning research and training." https://openai.com/index/approach-to-data-and-ai/ https://openai.com/index/approach-to-data-and-ai/ 4: (2023) "OpenAI promised 20% of its computing power to combat existential risks from AI — but never delivered" https://fortune.com/2024/05/21/openai-superalignment-20-compute-commitment-never-fulfilled-sutskever-leike-altman-brockman-murati/ https://fortune.com/2024/05/21/openai-superalignment-20-comp... 5: (2025) "REPORT: The OpenAI Files Document Broken Promises" https://techoversight.org/2025/06/18/openai-files-report/ https://techoversight.org/2025/06/18/openai-files-report/

asdff 9mo ago

The long con is already happening. Some unis are going full tilt on AI. Having mandatory AI courses. Buying chatgpt subscriptions for the students. Making them use ai for certain exercises. Ostensibly it is "preparing them for AI in the workforce" but in practice it is actually shaping up the workforce to be dependent on AI. Get an entire generation of workers to reach for chatgpt to do anything at all and suddenly it doesn't matter if it is less efficient than older methods since no one working will know them.

kajaktum 9mo ago

Thats the funny part. Its not used as an informational tool