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I "belong" to a society? That suggests that a group owns me. Hrm I'm probably nit picking, but the idea of a society owning me isn't something I agree with. Als

• pixl97 9mo ago
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  • pipes 9mo ago
    I'm not a libertarian, heck I even think property rights aren't a right, they are a service provided by the the state.
    • pineaux 9mo ago
      all rights are provided by a state or hegemon. Some rights are harder to take away than others. Some are easier. the hegemon does not need to be defined.
  • tacone 9mo ago
    > [Danger: Libertarian detected, rational communications may not work] The parity bit gets immediately unreliable.
• scubbo 9mo ago
  This is linguistic nonsense on a par with disliking the phrase "my spouse" because it implies ownership. You can easily talk of "my country" or "my university" without claiming ownership, just as one can talk of "a sense of belonging" or of "belonging to a club" without feeling owned. Words have several meanings.
  • pipes 9mo ago
    Yet, if I said my wife belonged to me I think I would get a few rebukes.
    • cush 9mo ago
      Why not just have a conversation in good faith? Instead of assuming the person you're chatting with is talking about slavery, and then when they clarify they're not talking about slavery, and you saying that it could be about slavery, you could just as easily say, "oh I misunderstood you". Sometimes humans have misunderstandings. Languages are messy. Just let it go.
      • pipes 9mo ago
        I haven't made any assumptions at all, reread what I said, then reread the replies. First one is a personal attack about being libertarian (an assumption), second one starts off as an attack too. I expressed a preference, in a light hearted way, hence the "hrm...". I come here for good faith debate and I'm genuinely grateful for it (I've said as much in other comments).
        • cush 9mo ago
          I think you mixed up different threads. Nobody called you a libertarian in this one. Sorry you’re having a bad day. Hope it gets better.
          • pipes 9mo ago
            The libertarian comment seems to have been removed/deleted now.
      • Dilettante_ 9mo ago
        They didn't misunderstand, they challenged the phrasing. Some people believe that words have power and language matters(or at least are entertaining the idea).
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• stackghost 9mo ago
  You live in a country with laws. You pay taxes. You can be put in prison. They both literally and figuratively own your ass. You're free to leave only if another country accepts you which is not a given.
• sandworm101 9mo ago
  >> the idea of a society owning me isn't something I agree with. Your agreement is irrelevant. Have you registered for selective service? Paid taxes? Have a drivers license? Check youtube for "sovcit traffic stop" to see what happens when people think they can live independent from the rest of society. The Amish must obey traffic laws just like everyone else. >> Also I'm free to leave. Nope. Many an american has fled to canada to avoid taxes/draft/jail. They are caught eventually. Citizenship is not property. You cannot just set it aside when you dont agree with its obligations. There is a process for leaving. It isnt short, easy, cheap or in any way guaranteed.
• TeMPOraL 9mo ago
  Would phrasing it as "your parents sold you into society" be more accurate for you?