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What lock in? They explicitly said: > Staying open to all was a non-negotiable requirement for both us and for Cloudflare. They have deployment guides for pra
by mynameisvlad 9mo ago
What lock in? They explicitly said:
> Staying open to all was a non-negotiable requirement for both us and for Cloudflare.
They have deployment guides for practically every provider out there: https://docs.astro.build/en/guides/deploy/ https://docs.astro.build/en/guides/deploy/
And at the end of the day, most of the deployment is just deploying a static site... Which you can do practically anywhere.
- mplewis 9mo agoYeah. For now.
- bahmboo 9mo agoThat's always been true. Perhaps even more so as Astro constantly faced an existential battle for a working business. Now they don't have to do that and Cloudflare makes their money on their infra business. Locking Astro up now or in the future gains them very little compared to how much they make with hosted upsell services. [edit: clarity]
- mynameisvlad 9mo agoIt's a static site builder. It creates a static site. HTML, CSS, and JS. That you can then upload literally anywhere. Once again, what lock in? There is literally nothing to lock in. Explain exactly how they are going to lock somebody in, moreso than the lazy "for now" which you seem to constantly repeat.
- thayne 9mo agoThey can stay open source, but stop putting any effort into supporting deploying to cloudflare's competitors, including accepting PRs for such improvements. Or they could add features that only work if you deploy via cloudflare. I also take anything said in an acquisition announcement with a grain of salt. It is pretty common for companies to make changes they said they wouldn't a few years after an acquisition.
- mynameisvlad 9mo agoOnce again, it’s a static site builder. How, exactly, would they “stop supporting deploying to cloudflare’s competitors”? Be specific.
- HumanOstrich 9mo agoThe same ways Vercel makes it harder to deploy Next.js sites to competitors or for self hosting.
- fady0 9mo agoNext.js isn't just a static site generator.
- HumanOstrich 9mo agoAstro isn't just a static site generator either. Not sure what your point is.
- mynameisvlad 9mo ago[flagged]
- HumanOstrich 9mo agoDid YOU even bother to look at their site? They support more than static generation, including SSR and even API endpoints. That means Astro has a server that can run server-side (or serverless) to do more than static site generation, so it's not just a static site generator either. And yes I can see you're posting the same lie all over the comments here. Stop being a potty mouth.
- theturtletalks 9mo agoVercel does not make Next.js hard to deploy elsewhere. Next.js runs fine on serverful platforms like Railway, Render, and Heroku. I have run a production Next.js SaaS on Railway for years with no issues. What Vercel really did was make Next.js work well in serverless environments, which involves a lot of custom infrastructure [0]. Cloudflare wanted that same behavior on CF Workers, but Vercel never open-sourced how they do it, and that is not really their responsibility. Next.js is not locked to Vercel. The friction shows up when trying to run it in a serverless model without building the same kind of platform Vercel has. 0. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIVL4JMqRfc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIVL4JMqRfc
- mmooss 9mo agoThey can say whatever they want, and then do whatever they want. They have no contractual or legal obligation. Almost every (it seems) acquisition begins with saying, 'nothing will change and the former management will stay on'. A year later, the former managment leaves and things change dramatically.