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While Canada might have taken a step like this eventually, Trump being Trump made it far more likely due to his desire to alienate Canada. Now it is likely tha

While Canada might have taken a step like this eventually, Trump being Trump made it far more likely due to his desire to alienate Canada. Now it is likely that Chinese EVs will drive on US roads from Vancouver, Montreal and Toronto into the US and US citizens will see for themselves. I'm not a fan of cheap cheap labor in that it reflects poverty that shouldn't exist in the modern world, but the strategic insistence of Detroit to produce expensive, low-efficiency, low-capability SUVs will start to backfire.

mekdoonggi 9mo ago
Agreed on the labor aspect, though Chinese manufacturing is increasingly becoming very automated, sophisticated, and less reliant on exploitative labor.
fidotron 9mo ago
> Now it is likely that Chinese EVs will drive on US roads from Vancouver, Montreal and Toronto into the US and US citizens will see for themselves. It is not clear they will be allowed to cross the border in these cars.
- triceratops 9mo ago
  These cars are street legal in the US. Ford's CEO used one as a daily driver. Unless the car stays permanently it wouldn't be counted as an import.
  - fidotron 9mo ago
    Aside from everything else, Ford's CEO is not going to be subjected to the same rules as you or I. A reality of all gov regulators is a degree of flexibility with respect to people undertaking genuine R&D in an upfront and responsible way.
- quantified 9mo ago
  I wonder how different street legal in Canada is from in the US, given the connectedness of manufacturing and markets. Maybe they will be banned for "national security". EDIT: specific statements here: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46651051 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46651051]
  - fidotron 9mo ago
    Yes, I should have linked that story myself, it's one of the things that provoked the comment. There are differences for street legality mainly around importing older cars which meant at one point the JDM scene in Canada had access to a lot more cars than the US did.

mekdoonggi 9mo ago

Agreed on the labor aspect, though Chinese manufacturing is increasingly becoming very automated, sophisticated, and less reliant on exploitative labor.

fidotron 9mo ago

> Now it is likely that Chinese EVs will drive on US roads from Vancouver, Montreal and Toronto into the US and US citizens will see for themselves. It is not clear they will be allowed to cross the border in these cars.

triceratops 9mo ago
These cars are street legal in the US. Ford's CEO used one as a daily driver. Unless the car stays permanently it wouldn't be counted as an import.
- fidotron 9mo ago
  Aside from everything else, Ford's CEO is not going to be subjected to the same rules as you or I. A reality of all gov regulators is a degree of flexibility with respect to people undertaking genuine R&D in an upfront and responsible way.
quantified 9mo ago
I wonder how different street legal in Canada is from in the US, given the connectedness of manufacturing and markets. Maybe they will be banned for "national security". EDIT: specific statements here: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46651051 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46651051]
- fidotron 9mo ago
  Yes, I should have linked that story myself, it's one of the things that provoked the comment. There are differences for street legality mainly around importing older cars which meant at one point the JDM scene in Canada had access to a lot more cars than the US did.