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This reporting is necessary and good, but a sizable percentage of this country does not care. The response will be something like "the bill of rights doesn't ap

This reporting is necessary and good, but a sizable percentage of this country does not care. The response will be something like "the bill of rights doesn't apply to illegals", or "this is what's necessary because Biden let in so many illegals", or "FAFO" People need to realize what kind of machine they're up against and how close to boiling the pot is getting. Lying, authoritarianism, and bootlicking are a virtue for one side of the aisle.

duxup 9mo ago
We will see, opinions move slowly but some polling indicated a majority of Americans, while supporting deporting illegal immigrants, disapprove of ICE and their tactics. How informed anyone is I don't know... some of my local news channels just parrot official statements.
- dsfdsfdsffdsfs 9mo ago
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  - rexpop 9mo ago
    I would not characterize immigrants as "invaders". Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022, including $59.4 billion to the federal government and $37.3 billion to state and local governments. Notably, they contributed $25.7 billion in Social Security taxes and $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes—programs they are largely barred from accessing. In California alone, undocumented immigrants paid $8.5 billion in state and local taxes in 2022. Research using Texas arrest data from 2012-2018 found that undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates than both native-born citizens and legal immigrants. U.S.-born citizens were over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes, 2.5 times more likely for drug crimes, and over 4 times more likely for property crimes compared to undocumented immigrants. For specific offenses like homicide, assault, and sexual assault, undocumented immigrants were roughly half as likely to be arrested as native-born citizens.
- andsoitis 9mo ago
  > majority of Americans, while supporting deporting illegal immigrants, disapprove of ICE and their tactics. How informed anyone is I don't know... some of my local news channels just parrot official statements. How can they disapprove (your first claim) if they are ill-informed (implied by your second sentence). That implies that their disapproval is unwarranted.
  - duxup 9mo ago
    I didn’t say they are ill-informed, I said I don’t know how informed anyone is.
xiphias2 9mo ago
Not really, I'm on the side of the constitution, I'm usually on the other side (ICE), but here they could and should have easily just waited, went through the law to be able to deport to Liberia again and do the whole process legally.
xboxnolifes 9mo ago
The reporting isn't for the 10%, 20%, 30%, or even possibly 40% of the population who will not care no matter what gets reported. It's for the others who can be made to care. Getting even just 1 more person to care, and getting those who already care to care more.

duxup 9mo ago

We will see, opinions move slowly but some polling indicated a majority of Americans, while supporting deporting illegal immigrants, disapprove of ICE and their tactics. How informed anyone is I don't know... some of my local news channels just parrot official statements.

dsfdsfdsffdsfs 9mo ago
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- rexpop 9mo ago
  I would not characterize immigrants as "invaders". Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022, including $59.4 billion to the federal government and $37.3 billion to state and local governments. Notably, they contributed $25.7 billion in Social Security taxes and $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes—programs they are largely barred from accessing. In California alone, undocumented immigrants paid $8.5 billion in state and local taxes in 2022. Research using Texas arrest data from 2012-2018 found that undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates than both native-born citizens and legal immigrants. U.S.-born citizens were over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes, 2.5 times more likely for drug crimes, and over 4 times more likely for property crimes compared to undocumented immigrants. For specific offenses like homicide, assault, and sexual assault, undocumented immigrants were roughly half as likely to be arrested as native-born citizens.
andsoitis 9mo ago
> majority of Americans, while supporting deporting illegal immigrants, disapprove of ICE and their tactics. How informed anyone is I don't know... some of my local news channels just parrot official statements. How can they disapprove (your first claim) if they are ill-informed (implied by your second sentence). That implies that their disapproval is unwarranted.
- duxup 9mo ago
  I didn’t say they are ill-informed, I said I don’t know how informed anyone is.

xiphias2 9mo ago

Not really, I'm on the side of the constitution, I'm usually on the other side (ICE), but here they could and should have easily just waited, went through the law to be able to deport to Liberia again and do the whole process legally.

xboxnolifes 9mo ago

The reporting isn't for the 10%, 20%, 30%, or even possibly 40% of the population who will not care no matter what gets reported. It's for the others who can be made to care. Getting even just 1 more person to care, and getting those who already care to care more.