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I don't know what gets through to the average voter. Maybe Jesse Ventura: https://youtube.com/watch?v=udSUbBhA8I0 https://youtube.com/watch?v=udSUbBhA8I0

diogenescynic 9mo ago
We're going to have to wait until Boomers age out to get any form of common sense government. They've absolutely been the most damaging generation and will leave a wake of destruction for future generations to recover (or not) from.
- aebtebeten 9mo ago
  Waiting doesn't work; ask me how I know :-) (I voted with my feet instead: it only takes ~2 years to learn a language) Actual substantive comment: My personal theory (looking from this side of the Atlantic) is that ICE got weaponised in this format precisely because the US Military wanted no part of thuggery, eg this 2020 memo: https://www.jcs.mil/Portals/36/Documents/CJCS%20Memo%20to%20the%20Joint%20Force%20(02JUN2020).pdf https://www.jcs.mil/Portals/36/Documents/CJCS%20Memo%20to%20... Is this a reasonable theory?
  - recursivecaveat 9mo ago
    Interesting, where did you move?
    - aebtebeten 9mo ago
      Switzerland. Politics has gotten more polarised away from the centre towards the extremes here as well, but it's still a long way from a two-party state: https://www.aboutswitzerland.eda.admin.ch/en/political-parties https://www.aboutswitzerland.eda.admin.ch/en/political-parti...
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      - gsf_emergency_6 9mo ago
        How do you know^W^W^W did you find out? (Taking your ancestor suggestion)
        aebtebeten 9mo ago
        I'm old enough to have seen that as the old bigots died off, young bigots replaced them.
  - bediger4000 9mo ago
    I think that's a reasonable theory. Trump had rough experiences (i.e. was not obeyed) by Secretaries of Defense during his first term. He needs his personally loyal armed force because of that. Firing a lot of military leadership is also probably part of that.
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- UncleMeat 9mo ago
  Believe it or not, gen-x is the only age group with a favorable opinion of ICE. The way out of this is with vigorous antifascism today. Not waiting.
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- burnt-resistor 9mo ago
  Waiting is an excuse to do nothing. That's the loser's path.

diogenescynic 9mo ago

We're going to have to wait until Boomers age out to get any form of common sense government. They've absolutely been the most damaging generation and will leave a wake of destruction for future generations to recover (or not) from.

aebtebeten 9mo ago
Waiting doesn't work; ask me how I know :-) (I voted with my feet instead: it only takes ~2 years to learn a language) Actual substantive comment: My personal theory (looking from this side of the Atlantic) is that ICE got weaponised in this format precisely because the US Military wanted no part of thuggery, eg this 2020 memo: https://www.jcs.mil/Portals/36/Documents/CJCS%20Memo%20to%20the%20Joint%20Force%20(02JUN2020).pdf https://www.jcs.mil/Portals/36/Documents/CJCS%20Memo%20to%20... Is this a reasonable theory?
- recursivecaveat 9mo ago
  Interesting, where did you move?
  - aebtebeten 9mo ago
    Switzerland. Politics has gotten more polarised away from the centre towards the extremes here as well, but it's still a long way from a two-party state: https://www.aboutswitzerland.eda.admin.ch/en/political-parties https://www.aboutswitzerland.eda.admin.ch/en/political-parti...
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    - gsf_emergency_6 9mo ago
      How do you know^W^W^W did you find out? (Taking your ancestor suggestion)
      - aebtebeten 9mo ago
        I'm old enough to have seen that as the old bigots died off, young bigots replaced them.
- bediger4000 9mo ago
  I think that's a reasonable theory. Trump had rough experiences (i.e. was not obeyed) by Secretaries of Defense during his first term. He needs his personally loyal armed force because of that. Firing a lot of military leadership is also probably part of that.
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UncleMeat 9mo ago
Believe it or not, gen-x is the only age group with a favorable opinion of ICE. The way out of this is with vigorous antifascism today. Not waiting.
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burnt-resistor 9mo ago
Waiting is an excuse to do nothing. That's the loser's path.