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Not convinced, plenty of countries (e.g. UK) don’t have such stringent don’t have strict zoning laws and also don’t have $4 food

antonly 9mo ago
A Meal Deal is literally £3.85. What are you talking about?
gruez 9mo ago
>don’t have such stringent don’t have strict zoning laws I thought the planning process in UK is even more perilous because of the lack of zoning laws? Everything is up to council review, which basically means vibes based instead of something that's codified.
- iamcalledrob 9mo ago
  Unlike the US, the UK's planning system doesn't have exclusive zoning as the default. This is the big difference. It's totally normal to have shops, restaurants and houses in the same area, and often on the same street.
- Ekaros 9mo ago
  Mixed zoning might not be issue. But that still doesn't mean there is not limited zoning. Or massive over head in various regulations and documentation burdens.
jcfrei 9mo ago
UK is famous for having extremely tough zoning laws, with many, many buildings being listed / landmarked. Something that does run very well in the UK are stores like Greggs which are usually classified as small shops (cat. E) without a kitchen. So the analysis applies there as well.
iamcalledrob 9mo ago
It is totally possible to get a $4 lunch in the UK. Basic pre-packaged sandwiches can be had for under $2. For about $4.75 you can get a sandwich, pastry, and a latte from just about any of the chain corner shops (Tesco Express etc) It's not gourmet, but it's a solid affordable option that millions of people eat every day. There's no real equivalent of this in the US sadly.
- t-3 9mo ago
  You can get pre-packaged sandwiches in the US (and a bunch of other stuff too, including hot food). I don't buy them and don't know the exact price, but they aren't expensive, definitely under $5. Eating from corner stores and gas stations is just usually looked down on.
  - iamcalledrob 9mo ago
    Pre-packaged sandwiches in the US are typically more in the $8-10 range, and that's just for the (sad) sandwich. It also tends to be much more depressing than what you'd get in the UK. Barely edible.

antonly 9mo ago

A Meal Deal is literally £3.85. What are you talking about?

gruez 9mo ago

>don’t have such stringent don’t have strict zoning laws I thought the planning process in UK is even more perilous because of the lack of zoning laws? Everything is up to council review, which basically means vibes based instead of something that's codified.

iamcalledrob 9mo ago
Unlike the US, the UK's planning system doesn't have exclusive zoning as the default. This is the big difference. It's totally normal to have shops, restaurants and houses in the same area, and often on the same street.
Ekaros 9mo ago
Mixed zoning might not be issue. But that still doesn't mean there is not limited zoning. Or massive over head in various regulations and documentation burdens.

jcfrei 9mo ago

UK is famous for having extremely tough zoning laws, with many, many buildings being listed / landmarked. Something that does run very well in the UK are stores like Greggs which are usually classified as small shops (cat. E) without a kitchen. So the analysis applies there as well.

iamcalledrob 9mo ago

It is totally possible to get a $4 lunch in the UK. Basic pre-packaged sandwiches can be had for under $2. For about $4.75 you can get a sandwich, pastry, and a latte from just about any of the chain corner shops (Tesco Express etc) It's not gourmet, but it's a solid affordable option that millions of people eat every day. There's no real equivalent of this in the US sadly.

t-3 9mo ago
You can get pre-packaged sandwiches in the US (and a bunch of other stuff too, including hot food). I don't buy them and don't know the exact price, but they aren't expensive, definitely under $5. Eating from corner stores and gas stations is just usually looked down on.
- iamcalledrob 9mo ago
  Pre-packaged sandwiches in the US are typically more in the $8-10 range, and that's just for the (sad) sandwich. It also tends to be much more depressing than what you'd get in the UK. Barely edible.