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It's not because it's new that it is good and something you want. You can say yes to streaming and no to AI songs.

by LunaSea 9mo ago

dist-epoch 9mo ago
How about we let the consumers decide what they want to listen to. Right? Or are you afraid of what the consumers might like and thus preemptively want to strike.
- happytoexplain 9mo ago
  We can protect people's livelihoods and the foundations of creativity without making it illegal to distribute or listen to AI music in any way. You're being dramatic. Nobody is being oppressed.
- saghm 9mo ago
  Do you think that listening to music that isn't on charts is somehow impossible?
- LunaSea 9mo ago
  I'll answer with the same comment as I did above: cocaine is a popular consumer choice, should we allow, maybe even encourage it?
- JohnFen 9mo ago
  > How about we let the consumers decide what they want to listen to. Nobody is impeding that.
- plagiarist 9mo ago
  It's being removed from an industry chart, not being banned from their devices. If you love freedom so much why don't you support the industry and the chart to make their own decisions?
- ndsipa_pomu 9mo ago
  Banning AI-produced music is surely an attempt to let consumers continue to decide what they want to listen to. The alternative is that music charts all get flooded with huge amounts of AI-generated music and finding actually good music will be like searching for a needle in a haystack.
bitshiftfaced 9mo ago
Doesn't topping a popularity chart mean that it was "good" at least to many people?
- techpression 9mo ago
  Considering how cheap and easy it is to buy views/likes/subscribers I wouldn’t trust it blindly. Somehow I feel that people pushing AI music also would game the system, but I don’t have any proof unfortunately.
- happytoexplain 9mo ago
  Lots of things are "good" in some contexts and "bad" in others. You may disagree that the mere existence of a list that omits AI is "good" for some people, but those people disagree with you.
- reaperducer 9mo ago
  Doesn't topping a popularity chart mean that it was "good" at least to many people? So we should start awarding Michelin stars to McDonald's?
  - Am4TIfIsER0ppos 9mo ago
    We don't they have their judges so it's more like the oscars: an industry award
  - sejje 9mo ago
    If you wanted to explain why McDonald's was so popular, you would have to compliment the product a lot, or lie.
    - LunaSea 9mo ago
      If "complimenting the product" means: "a lot of fat, a lot of sugar, relatively low price, relatively fast order fulfilment", then sure.
- LunaSea 9mo ago
timeon 9mo ago
I can imagine generating AI song for myself but streaming usually seems like hell (algorithms, needs to be online, surveillance, lock-in, subscriptions).

It's not because it's new that it is good and something you want. You can say yes to streaming and no to AI songs.

by LunaSea 9mo ago

It's not because it's new that it is good and something you want. You can say yes to streaming and no to AI songs.

How about we let the consumers decide what they want to listen to. Right? Or are you afraid of what the consumers might like and thus preemptively want to strike.

happytoexplain 9mo ago
We can protect people's livelihoods and the foundations of creativity without making it illegal to distribute or listen to AI music in any way. You're being dramatic. Nobody is being oppressed.
saghm 9mo ago
Do you think that listening to music that isn't on charts is somehow impossible?
LunaSea 9mo ago
I'll answer with the same comment as I did above: cocaine is a popular consumer choice, should we allow, maybe even encourage it?
JohnFen 9mo ago
> How about we let the consumers decide what they want to listen to. Nobody is impeding that.
plagiarist 9mo ago
It's being removed from an industry chart, not being banned from their devices. If you love freedom so much why don't you support the industry and the chart to make their own decisions?
ndsipa_pomu 9mo ago
Banning AI-produced music is surely an attempt to let consumers continue to decide what they want to listen to. The alternative is that music charts all get flooded with huge amounts of AI-generated music and finding actually good music will be like searching for a needle in a haystack.

bitshiftfaced 9mo ago

Doesn't topping a popularity chart mean that it was "good" at least to many people?

techpression 9mo ago
Considering how cheap and easy it is to buy views/likes/subscribers I wouldn’t trust it blindly. Somehow I feel that people pushing AI music also would game the system, but I don’t have any proof unfortunately.
happytoexplain 9mo ago
Lots of things are "good" in some contexts and "bad" in others. You may disagree that the mere existence of a list that omits AI is "good" for some people, but those people disagree with you.
reaperducer 9mo ago
Doesn't topping a popularity chart mean that it was "good" at least to many people? So we should start awarding Michelin stars to McDonald's?
- Am4TIfIsER0ppos 9mo ago
  We don't they have their judges so it's more like the oscars: an industry award
- sejje 9mo ago
  If you wanted to explain why McDonald's was so popular, you would have to compliment the product a lot, or lie.
  - LunaSea 9mo ago
    If "complimenting the product" means: "a lot of fat, a lot of sugar, relatively low price, relatively fast order fulfilment", then sure.
LunaSea 9mo ago

timeon 9mo ago

I can imagine generating AI song for myself but streaming usually seems like hell (algorithms, needs to be online, surveillance, lock-in, subscriptions).