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The military can very easily find and eliminate repeaters very quickly and almost certainly would.
by codezero 9mo ago
The military can very easily find and eliminate repeaters very quickly and almost certainly would.
- torlok 9mo agoThen get more? Sounds like a fantastic way to waste military resources. I have no clue why this mythical US military might and efficiency idea persists after so many failed interventions.
- kingkawn 9mo agoThe interventions fail only after enormous slaughter, which people are understandably keen to not be subject to
- anigbrowl 9mo agoAs if compliance had such a great success rate.
- computerthings 9mo ago[dead]
- bb88 9mo agoNo, just blast the hell out of the ISM bands on which they operate. This seem certainly feasible for a military apparatus the size of the US.
- torlok 9mo agoI'm sure everybody's going to stay on ISM bands to remain compliant with government regulations while being attacked by the government.
- ozfive 9mo agoThis deserves a /s
- esseph 9mo agoThe economic impact of that would be massive re: business operational impact. Directional radios would still win out on p2p links.
- kevin_thibedeau 9mo agoThe intervention part is an administrative problem the military isn't designed for. For the core mission of collecting intelligence, eliminating targets, and occupying land, the US has an unrivaled track record over the last 85 years.
- subscribed 9mo agoHere's a funny example of making it harder to find: https://youtu.be/W_F4rEaRduk?t=178 https://youtu.be/W_F4rEaRduk?t=178
- bb88 9mo agoTriangulation is damn easy. If the US can put on bomb on a suspect satellite phone user back in the 2000's (and they did!), they can certainly send a bomb on that today. Sat phones during the second gulf war (maybe even the first) became a liability. The transmission lit them up like a god damn beacon saying, "Bomb goes here!".
- fragmede 9mo agoTriangulation, the math isn't the hard part. Where exactly on the continental United States are you proposing dropping ordinance? MOVE in 1985 was controversial even back then.
- esseph 9mo agoGood luck if your mesh network is on 2.4/5/6ghz. It'll blend in with background radiation from home routers.
- ssl-3 9mo agoIt can have challenges, but triangulation can be done with signals that have recognizable patterns or features -- even in a sea of other co-channel noise sources. If you can observe the signal strength of your neighbor's home router while standing next to your own even if the signals differ in strength by some orders of magnitude (which is easy on Android; no idea bout iOS), then anyone else can also do the same.
- 1shooner 9mo ago>the more people who use it, the more robust and far-reaching and reliable it gets. I was under the opposite impression, that meshtastic's whole problem is that it doesn't scale well at all.
- ungreased0675 9mo agoYou must have missed the S-tier op that went down January 3rd.
- torlok 9mo agoThat was a single mission planned over months. We're talking about a continuous subjudagtion.
- trhway 9mo agoRepeater coupled with [autonomous] drone to change [hard-to-get-to rooftop, treetop and the likes] location every 10 minutes like in a combat zone.
- vfclists 9mo agoIsn't stopping abuses of the power of the military the reason for the 2nd Amendment? Why don't the people in Minnesota go open carry and let ICE agents think twice before drawing their weapons on people?
- soulofmischief 9mo agoRenee Good was killed after dropping off her six-year-old child at school. I agree with you, but people like her have children and are not trying to die in the street just for looking at somebody the wrong way. And it's one thing to open carry, it's another thing to become a trained and confident marksmen. And as someone who has had half a dozen police officers simultaneously pointing guns at my head, mistaking me for someone else in public, once you're in that situation, escalation is only going to lead to death. Out here, police shoot you if your hand goes anywhere near your waist.
- bb88 9mo ago>Isn't stopping abuses of the power of the military the reason for the 2nd Amendment? It was for establishing well ordered militias. They could be used to help defend the country in a time of war. > Why don't the people in Minnesota go open carry and let ICE agents think twice before drawing their weapons on people? Most of the demonstrators believe that "the pen is mightier than the sword", and non-violence is the way to achieve political means. (Ghandi, MLK jr.) When the peace-niks start amassing guns, that's when you have a tipping point in this country.
- subscribed 9mo agoI don't think it's going to be military killing a Americans. As of now it more looks like federal government. Nevertheless, sure, in the rural areas, but less so in the cities, reflections and bending of the waves make it much harder, and a single repeater with solar panel and battery could plausibly be made under $50.
- bb88 9mo agoA military won't be killing all Americans, just the ones it can label as "terrorists" to the people who elected them.
- ozfive 9mo agoThey are being made. I have a four node network already in my suburb. There is a software project that is written in Python that essentially turns lorawan nodes into BBSs similar to briar.
- subscribed 9mo agoThat's a great news!
- ozfive 9mo agoMaybe ham repeaters but when we are talking lorawan they will have a hell of a time taking the networks down that are already established. Just in my suburb we have more than 6000 nodes because of the helium network.
- esseph 9mo agoIt would be futile. It's a big country full of 340,000,000 people. Great way to waste resources though.
- culi 9mo agoThey're incredibly easy to build and even disguise as lawn ornaments as Benn Jordan showed in a recent video. When it costs us less money and time to build them than it costs the gov't to find/destroy them it's a worthy investment
- bigfatkitten 9mo agoAt no time from 2001-2021 did the Taliban find themselves short on VHF repeaters. If one gets taken down, put up another one.
- aaravchen 9mo agoWhy would they bother? Super low bandwidth unencrypted communication they can triangulate if they really need to sounds like a perfect thing to let keep running and just monitor. Then you can triangulate just the "seditious" people who incriminate themselves.
- aaravchen 9mo agoI guess if you were relying on the meshtastic network as a backbone network replacement, which I'm not sure much of anyone is even currently setup for and I've heard isnt really feasible with the naive meshtastic toy implementation, you could be sending encrypted traffic. But then you have to have pre-shared encryption keys for participants and it will significantly lose it's usefulness for adding new adopters.
- NoiseBert69 9mo agoYou can build a Meshcore/-tastic station for less than 15€ if you are into PCB design. It's like fighting against off-the-shelf drones.