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> The AWS European Sovereign Cloud is the only fully-featured, independently operated sovereign cloud, backed by strong technical controls, sovereign assurances
by blibble 9mo ago
> The AWS European Sovereign Cloud is the only fully-featured, independently operated sovereign cloud, backed by strong technical controls, sovereign assurances and legal protections.
independently OPERATED, not independently owned
therefore: still under the jurisdiction of the US regime
- embedding-shape 9mo agoAlso "legal protections" provided by the US regime, for what that exactly entails anymore I'm not sure, probably depends on the situation.
- colechristensen 9mo agoCongress as it is are cowards incapable of protecting the law, it is merely a regime based law until Congress can prove and rebuild trust that it has a backbone.
- eCa 9mo ago> still under the jurisdiction of the US regime Exactly, this seem pointless for people serious about staying away from US owned data stores. I know first hand of EU based businesses that left AWS (and all other US owned services) before 2020 due to customer (B2B) demand which in turn was due to the Cloud Act[1], and for whom it today would be completely untenable to return. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act
- bee_rider 9mo agoWait, how does this work? If it is owned by a US company but operated by people inside the EU, I would expect the actual laws in effect to be the EU ones. I mean, that’s who can actually send police to stomp around and physically take the hard drives if they really want to. The US can of course command the US owners to instruct their EU based employees to do something illegal in the EU, but if your boss tells you do do something illegal, you are still breaking the law if you do it…