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I'm curious about the iOS situation

by electronsoup 9mo ago

thomascountz 9mo ago
Briar is available on Google Play for devices running Android. What situation do you mean?
- arcanemachiner 9mo ago
  The one you just summarized perfectly.
celsoazevedo 9mo ago
I doubt iOS has a large market share in Iran. Also, for something like this you don't want a platform that requires you to essentially use the App Store and nothing else.
- dc396 9mo ago
  iOS is around 10%, Android around 90%. (https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/iran/%20 https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/iran/%20)
bflesch 9mo ago
Unfortunately, due to safety reasons Apple cannot allow you to leave the walled garden, it is only in your own best interest. All communication services on our iOS devices require at least one US-based NSA-integrated middleman. /s
- bb88 9mo ago
  Seriously though, given all the NSA has done: Could the NSA launch a "beach head" inside Apple?
- tamimio 9mo ago
  Don’t forget the horror stories of people relying on iCloud to have all their personal life there only to get locked out for silly reasons.
  - sp0ck 9mo ago
    Google is no better here, I would say they are even worse since they are scanning your files actively. Remember story of Father who was asked by doctor to send his baby son private parts photos due to covid and Google not only locked him out but also notified Police. Even after getting statement from Law Enforcement there was no crime they didn't restore his access. Guy lost 20 years of live history due to algorithm.
    - bflesch 9mo ago
      I feel the narrative on these kind of issues should be updated. We've been using their framing of "algorithms" but it is taking away all responsibility from the US tech workers who are actually designing and running Google. The guy lost 20 years of life history due to US tech workers at Google wrongfully blocking his account and then ignoring his pleads for reactivation. When US tech workers can show up to take cash and bonus payments from Google, they can also show up to take responsibility for Google's impact.
DANmode 9mo ago
10% of devices or less.

I'm curious about the iOS situation

thomascountz 9mo ago

Briar is available on Google Play for devices running Android. What situation do you mean?

arcanemachiner 9mo ago
The one you just summarized perfectly.

celsoazevedo 9mo ago

I doubt iOS has a large market share in Iran. Also, for something like this you don't want a platform that requires you to essentially use the App Store and nothing else.

dc396 9mo ago
iOS is around 10%, Android around 90%. (https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/iran/%20 https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/iran/%20)

bflesch 9mo ago

Unfortunately, due to safety reasons Apple cannot allow you to leave the walled garden, it is only in your own best interest. All communication services on our iOS devices require at least one US-based NSA-integrated middleman. /s

bb88 9mo ago
Seriously though, given all the NSA has done: Could the NSA launch a "beach head" inside Apple?
tamimio 9mo ago
Don’t forget the horror stories of people relying on iCloud to have all their personal life there only to get locked out for silly reasons.
- sp0ck 9mo ago
  Google is no better here, I would say they are even worse since they are scanning your files actively. Remember story of Father who was asked by doctor to send his baby son private parts photos due to covid and Google not only locked him out but also notified Police. Even after getting statement from Law Enforcement there was no crime they didn't restore his access. Guy lost 20 years of live history due to algorithm.
  - bflesch 9mo ago
    I feel the narrative on these kind of issues should be updated. We've been using their framing of "algorithms" but it is taking away all responsibility from the US tech workers who are actually designing and running Google. The guy lost 20 years of life history due to US tech workers at Google wrongfully blocking his account and then ignoring his pleads for reactivation. When US tech workers can show up to take cash and bonus payments from Google, they can also show up to take responsibility for Google's impact.

DANmode 9mo ago

10% of devices or less.