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Interesting to compare with Fly's sprites: https://sprites.dev/#billing https://sprites.dev/#billing

by nine_k 10mo ago

messh 10mo ago
One difference other than price is that sprites doesn't seem to use ssh
- nine_k 10mo ago
  Also, they cost less than a shellbox when unused (idle), and more when used.
  - jorams 10mo ago
    > and more when used. Sprites pricing is based on usage, not reserved capacity, so depending on what you're doing I think it can actually be cheaper than Shellbox. You'll have to stay below 1GB of memory and have the CPU be mostly idle, which I'm not sure common workloads will.
- blackqueeriroh 10mo ago
  You can use ssh with a sprite.
  - indigodaddy 10mo ago
    Nope, unless they changed this recently. It's an ssh-like way to connect and get a console/terminal, but it's not ssh, and there is no transfer capability
    - slow_typist 10mo ago
      How do you upload files to a sprite box then?
      - indigodaddy 10mo ago
        https://community.fly.io/t/how-to-upload-and-download-files-to-sprites/26790 https://community.fly.io/t/how-to-upload-and-download-files-...
    - blackqueeriroh 10mo ago
      Só, if you put this on a tailnet and there’s no proxy between you and the sprite, you’re saying you can’t SSH in? Are you sure about that?
swores 10mo ago
Maybe I'm being dense, but could someone kindly explain to me the "Web App" example on that Sprites page? "30 hours of wake time per month (~5 concurrent users avg), averaging 10% of 2 CPUs and 1 GB RAM" Does that mean it would sit available but using 0% when there's nobody on the site, and just bill for usage when web traffic is causing the server to do work? So if the web app went a month with no visitors it would cost nothing (except for the file storage fees)?
- jorams 10mo ago
  > So if the web app went a month with no visitors it would cost nothing (except for the file storage fees)? Yes that's the idea. The public URL for a sprite is served by a (free) load balancer. The sprite is normally suspended, gets resumed when a request comes in, then suspended again. Not sure on the exact timeouts, they probably don't suspend immediately after a response is sent.
  - swores 10mo ago
    Alright, thanks!

Interesting to compare with Fly's sprites: https://sprites.dev/#billing https://sprites.dev/#billing

by nine_k 10mo ago

Interesting to compare with Fly's sprites: https://sprites.dev/#billing https://sprites.dev/#billing

messh 10mo ago

One difference other than price is that sprites doesn't seem to use ssh

nine_k 10mo ago
Also, they cost less than a shellbox when unused (idle), and more when used.
- jorams 10mo ago
  > and more when used. Sprites pricing is based on usage, not reserved capacity, so depending on what you're doing I think it can actually be cheaper than Shellbox. You'll have to stay below 1GB of memory and have the CPU be mostly idle, which I'm not sure common workloads will.
blackqueeriroh 10mo ago
You can use ssh with a sprite.
- indigodaddy 10mo ago
  Nope, unless they changed this recently. It's an ssh-like way to connect and get a console/terminal, but it's not ssh, and there is no transfer capability
  - slow_typist 10mo ago
    How do you upload files to a sprite box then?
    - indigodaddy 10mo ago
      https://community.fly.io/t/how-to-upload-and-download-files-to-sprites/26790 https://community.fly.io/t/how-to-upload-and-download-files-...
  - blackqueeriroh 10mo ago
    Só, if you put this on a tailnet and there’s no proxy between you and the sprite, you’re saying you can’t SSH in? Are you sure about that?

swores 10mo ago

Maybe I'm being dense, but could someone kindly explain to me the "Web App" example on that Sprites page? "30 hours of wake time per month (~5 concurrent users avg), averaging 10% of 2 CPUs and 1 GB RAM" Does that mean it would sit available but using 0% when there's nobody on the site, and just bill for usage when web traffic is causing the server to do work? So if the web app went a month with no visitors it would cost nothing (except for the file storage fees)?

jorams 10mo ago
> So if the web app went a month with no visitors it would cost nothing (except for the file storage fees)? Yes that's the idea. The public URL for a sprite is served by a (free) load balancer. The sprite is normally suspended, gets resumed when a request comes in, then suspended again. Not sure on the exact timeouts, they probably don't suspend immediately after a response is sent.
- swores 10mo ago
  Alright, thanks!