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i would take a 50% pay cut (FAANG) to move to denmark (with an accelerated path to perm residency) to work on whatever thing they want. any takers? actually any

i would take a 50% pay cut (FAANG) to move to denmark (with an accelerated path to perm residency) to work on whatever thing they want. any takers? actually any EU nation... Edit: with all of the negativity under this comment I'm reminded of a hilarious experience I had when I first interned at FB during grad school: I was on some online game with a friend of mine and his friend (whom I'd never met) and we were on voice chat. My buddy asks me how the internship is going and I gave the standard "it's hard but I'm learning a lot" response. Afterwards the third guy chimes in and asks if me I don't feel ashamed (or whatever) about working for FB. It was literally my first tech internship so I said something equivocal. Then I asked the guy what he did/where he worked. I shit you not the guy was literally a radar engineer for the US army. The irony was clearly lost on him and he even went as far as insisting he (as opposed to me) was doing very good/valuable work.

bobsmooth 9mo ago
Would you work in Europe for a 5 figure salary?
- GrowingSideways 9mo ago
  Sure. Money isn't everything. A broader concern is that many european countries have similar problems like housing costs and a rising far-right without any better solution. And besides, these sky-high wages won't last for long with a state intent on isolating itself and starving its consumer base of wages. Personally, I'm looking at east asia and latin america.
  - bflesch 9mo ago
    I think you have the causation wrong. The far right is rising mostly due to social media which is full of fake news and propaganda. People working at US tech companies nurture this "engagement" in order to get rich while poisoning our societies.
    - petre 9mo ago
      In Europe they have an issue with the economic refugees from Muslim countries. And in Denmark has the counter example of Sweden where they cause trouble. That's why the far right gets people's votes. Of course, all they do is point to the migrants. The far right won't be solving any issues, it will just create new ones.
      - bflesch 9mo ago
        Why you feel the need to discuss a "far right" in Europe while US tech leadership is performing roman salutes in front of live cameras? Muslim refugees are not responsible for Epstein, Greenland, US import duties, US ignoring Minsk agreement or Facebook actively supporting fake news with engineering resources embedded into political campaigns. The vast majority of muslim refugees integrates extremely well and perform shitty jobs that help our society, all while being traumatized from wars they were born into. The social media accounts of the "far right" sit in st. petersburg propaganda mills and their advertisement account managers sit in san francisco. Workers at US-tech companies are responsible for the unchecked bombardment of our citizens with propaganda and fake news.
        GrowingSideways 9mo ago
        Are you suggesting that the AfD is not popular? > Workers at US-tech companies are responsible for the unchecked bombardment of our citizens with propaganda and fake news. They're also responsible for the propaganda and fake news targeting the center and the left. It just works most effectively to drive people right because of.... widely-distributed personality quirks, shall we say. It's not clear this dynamic would disappear if social media disappeared, but I do think it would slow down.
    - GrowingSideways 9mo ago
      Well, that may be true, although I didn't intend to imply any causal relationship at all. My point is I don't see the general situation in Europe (or the anglosphere) as much improved, just.... less advanced.
- prettygood 9mo ago
  As a freelancer you can easily still earn 6 figures
- barbazoo 9mo ago
  Many people do!
- fuglede_ 9mo ago
  Median salary for a dev is about $130,000 according to https://www.prosa.dk/raad-og-svar/loenstatistik-2025 https://www.prosa.dk/raad-og-svar/loenstatistik-2025 (assumes 37 hour work week, 5 weeks of vacation).
bflesch 9mo ago
How about instead of taking the easy way out and preserving your wealth you stay in the US and take up your generational responsibility and figure out how to fix the situation that you and your fellow citizens have created?
- praptak 9mo ago
  Moving to another continent isn't a particularly easy way out. It's also more than 99% of people are prepared to do.
  - joe_mamba 9mo ago
    Imagine people cross continents with just clothes and a backpack while avoiding law enforcement. When you have a US passport, FAANG on your resume and 6-7 figure net worth, I wouldn't dare complain about difficulty in immigration.
  - bflesch 9mo ago
    So you're trying to say that taking a flight is some sort sacrifice? Most of the people I know have lived in at least one other country for several months, while most of US citizens not once in their life have left the USA and don't even own a passport.
- pesus 9mo ago
  The average person has almost no way of making any serious impact on society, especially in this time period. Besides that, the US was founded by people taking "the easy way out" and leaving another country, so it's only fitting. Though the commenter mentioned working at a FAANG, so maybe they're far more culpable in this situation than the average person. If that's the case, I'd have to agree with you.
- mathisfun123 9mo ago
  LOL my family immigrated to this country from a "shithole" when i was a kid and i've managed to claw my way out of immigrant poverty. i have exactly zero "generational responsibility".
Quothling 9mo ago
If you're a US citizen you should probably pick a different European country. USA is not very popular here in Denmark. Likely wont be for a while.
- drsim 9mo ago
  Here in Denmark I hold no animosity toward Americans and none of my circle do. The current US administration on the other hand…
  - Quothling 9mo ago
    We've stopped hiring US citizens becuase they pose a national defense risk to the energy sector. I don't think anyone has any animosity toward US citizens here either though, but I do think you'd find some if you went to a local pub.
petre 9mo ago
Dreadful weather but otherwise a nice country.
ta20240528 9mo ago
For me, Copenhagen Atomics would be ideal.
CalRobert 9mo ago
If you can self employ (and find housing, but if you have cash from a FAANG job you can probably pay cash), the Dutch American Friendship Treaty is a popular choice.

bobsmooth 9mo ago

Would you work in Europe for a 5 figure salary?

GrowingSideways 9mo ago
Sure. Money isn't everything. A broader concern is that many european countries have similar problems like housing costs and a rising far-right without any better solution. And besides, these sky-high wages won't last for long with a state intent on isolating itself and starving its consumer base of wages. Personally, I'm looking at east asia and latin america.
- bflesch 9mo ago
  I think you have the causation wrong. The far right is rising mostly due to social media which is full of fake news and propaganda. People working at US tech companies nurture this "engagement" in order to get rich while poisoning our societies.
  - petre 9mo ago
    In Europe they have an issue with the economic refugees from Muslim countries. And in Denmark has the counter example of Sweden where they cause trouble. That's why the far right gets people's votes. Of course, all they do is point to the migrants. The far right won't be solving any issues, it will just create new ones.
    - bflesch 9mo ago
      Why you feel the need to discuss a "far right" in Europe while US tech leadership is performing roman salutes in front of live cameras? Muslim refugees are not responsible for Epstein, Greenland, US import duties, US ignoring Minsk agreement or Facebook actively supporting fake news with engineering resources embedded into political campaigns. The vast majority of muslim refugees integrates extremely well and perform shitty jobs that help our society, all while being traumatized from wars they were born into. The social media accounts of the "far right" sit in st. petersburg propaganda mills and their advertisement account managers sit in san francisco. Workers at US-tech companies are responsible for the unchecked bombardment of our citizens with propaganda and fake news.
      - GrowingSideways 9mo ago
        Are you suggesting that the AfD is not popular? > Workers at US-tech companies are responsible for the unchecked bombardment of our citizens with propaganda and fake news. They're also responsible for the propaganda and fake news targeting the center and the left. It just works most effectively to drive people right because of.... widely-distributed personality quirks, shall we say. It's not clear this dynamic would disappear if social media disappeared, but I do think it would slow down.
  - GrowingSideways 9mo ago
    Well, that may be true, although I didn't intend to imply any causal relationship at all. My point is I don't see the general situation in Europe (or the anglosphere) as much improved, just.... less advanced.
prettygood 9mo ago
As a freelancer you can easily still earn 6 figures
barbazoo 9mo ago
Many people do!
fuglede_ 9mo ago
Median salary for a dev is about $130,000 according to https://www.prosa.dk/raad-og-svar/loenstatistik-2025 https://www.prosa.dk/raad-og-svar/loenstatistik-2025 (assumes 37 hour work week, 5 weeks of vacation).

bflesch 9mo ago

How about instead of taking the easy way out and preserving your wealth you stay in the US and take up your generational responsibility and figure out how to fix the situation that you and your fellow citizens have created?

praptak 9mo ago
Moving to another continent isn't a particularly easy way out. It's also more than 99% of people are prepared to do.
- joe_mamba 9mo ago
  Imagine people cross continents with just clothes and a backpack while avoiding law enforcement. When you have a US passport, FAANG on your resume and 6-7 figure net worth, I wouldn't dare complain about difficulty in immigration.
- bflesch 9mo ago
  So you're trying to say that taking a flight is some sort sacrifice? Most of the people I know have lived in at least one other country for several months, while most of US citizens not once in their life have left the USA and don't even own a passport.
pesus 9mo ago
The average person has almost no way of making any serious impact on society, especially in this time period. Besides that, the US was founded by people taking "the easy way out" and leaving another country, so it's only fitting. Though the commenter mentioned working at a FAANG, so maybe they're far more culpable in this situation than the average person. If that's the case, I'd have to agree with you.
mathisfun123 9mo ago
LOL my family immigrated to this country from a "shithole" when i was a kid and i've managed to claw my way out of immigrant poverty. i have exactly zero "generational responsibility".

Quothling 9mo ago

If you're a US citizen you should probably pick a different European country. USA is not very popular here in Denmark. Likely wont be for a while.

drsim 9mo ago
Here in Denmark I hold no animosity toward Americans and none of my circle do. The current US administration on the other hand…
- Quothling 9mo ago
  We've stopped hiring US citizens becuase they pose a national defense risk to the energy sector. I don't think anyone has any animosity toward US citizens here either though, but I do think you'd find some if you went to a local pub.

petre 9mo ago

Dreadful weather but otherwise a nice country.

ta20240528 9mo ago

For me, Copenhagen Atomics would be ideal.

CalRobert 9mo ago

If you can self employ (and find housing, but if you have cash from a FAANG job you can probably pay cash), the Dutch American Friendship Treaty is a popular choice.