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helm repo add gitlab https://charts.gitlab.io/ https://charts.gitlab.io/ && helm upgrade --install gitlab gitlab/gitlab I did this in 2019, it avoided so many

by tapoxi 9mo ago

helm repo add gitlab https://charts.gitlab.io/ https://charts.gitlab.io/ && helm upgrade --install gitlab gitlab/gitlab I did this in 2019, it avoided so many headaches. CI is better too since there's a nice clean mapping of build -> pod for everything and I can just exec in if something's borked.

odie5533 9mo ago
Things would have to get really bad before I considered managing my own repositories. Trading someone else's headaches for my own.
- 0xbadcafebee 9mo ago
  ^ this. the last thing i want is to add to my workload. take my money and make my life easier, even if it means that for one hour every couple months i can't do anything
  - NewJazz 9mo ago
    Have you ever actually hosted gitlab?
    - 0xbadcafebee 9mo ago
      Not only have I hosted it, I've helped migrate two gitlab instances to github enterprise, because we didn't want to maintain it anymore
      - NewJazz 9mo ago
        Don't you still have to maintain github enterprise?
        0xbadcafebee 9mo ago
        It's the cloud managed one, they have an "enterprisey" license that gives you more features/limits but you don't have to run infra, upgrades, patches etc
- tapoxi 9mo ago
  It's not as bad as you think, I run the helm upgrade when patches come out, the backing store is S3 or managed SQL, it runs a nightly k8s cron called gitlab-backup which tarballs the whole thing into an s3 bucket with a single command restore should disaster strike. (This is part of the product, not a thing I wrote.) I probably only babysit it for 30 minutes per year, including all the upgrades.
- nine_k 9mo ago
  It depends how high you value your headaches, and how high, your org's downtime. Github not working accrues over the hourly rate of every developer affected, which is likely $70-$100 a hour. 10 hours of outage in a year affecting a team of 10 would cost north of $70k, enough to hire a part-time SRE dedicated just to tend to your Gitlab installation.
  - TechDebtDevin 9mo ago
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  - zxcvasd 9mo ago
    >10 hours of outage in a year affecting a team of 10 would cost north of $70k 10 hours x 10 developers x $70 per hour = $7000, not $70000.
    - nine_k 9mo ago
      Thank you for the correction! This indeed completely changes the picture :-\

by tapoxi 9mo ago

odie5533 9mo ago

Things would have to get really bad before I considered managing my own repositories. Trading someone else's headaches for my own.

0xbadcafebee 9mo ago
^ this. the last thing i want is to add to my workload. take my money and make my life easier, even if it means that for one hour every couple months i can't do anything
- NewJazz 9mo ago
  Have you ever actually hosted gitlab?
  - 0xbadcafebee 9mo ago
    Not only have I hosted it, I've helped migrate two gitlab instances to github enterprise, because we didn't want to maintain it anymore
    - NewJazz 9mo ago
      Don't you still have to maintain github enterprise?
      - 0xbadcafebee 9mo ago
        It's the cloud managed one, they have an "enterprisey" license that gives you more features/limits but you don't have to run infra, upgrades, patches etc
tapoxi 9mo ago
It's not as bad as you think, I run the helm upgrade when patches come out, the backing store is S3 or managed SQL, it runs a nightly k8s cron called gitlab-backup which tarballs the whole thing into an s3 bucket with a single command restore should disaster strike. (This is part of the product, not a thing I wrote.) I probably only babysit it for 30 minutes per year, including all the upgrades.
nine_k 9mo ago
It depends how high you value your headaches, and how high, your org's downtime. Github not working accrues over the hourly rate of every developer affected, which is likely $70-$100 a hour. 10 hours of outage in a year affecting a team of 10 would cost north of $70k, enough to hire a part-time SRE dedicated just to tend to your Gitlab installation.
- TechDebtDevin 9mo ago
  [dead]
- zxcvasd 9mo ago
  >10 hours of outage in a year affecting a team of 10 would cost north of $70k 10 hours x 10 developers x $70 per hour = $7000, not $70000.
  - nine_k 9mo ago
    Thank you for the correction! This indeed completely changes the picture :-\