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Yes, this is how market economy works. For every organization doing horrible things, literally everyone is a small number of payment-handshakes from it. No, it
by praptak 9mo ago
Yes, this is how market economy works. For every organization doing horrible things, literally everyone is a small number of payment-handshakes from it.
No, it doesn't mean that "mr gotcha"[1] argument is valid. You don't have to isolate yourself from society Kaczynski-style to either criticize society or to do something smaller (like choosing who you work for).
[1] https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha/ https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha/
- basket_horse 9mo agoSure, but in that case your rage should be directed at ICE / the federal government. Not a third party software vendor.
- praptak 9mo agoThe rage should be dependent on the contribution. You mention a third party software vendor who produces tools that aren't even "dual-use" with respect to the abuse by ICE, they are specifically tailored. That's not the same as, say, providing electricity to them.
- basket_horse 9mo agoThey are dual use. Palantir creates platforms (Foundry, Gotham) which are used by ICE but also thousands of other companies. Are you saying that just because ICE tailors these platforms to their workflows they’re not dual use? That feels akin to saying some super complicated excel workflow used by a company means excel is not dual use.
- foobiekr 9mo agoPalantir does a ton of customization and consulting for specific use cases. This isn't like Microsoft Excel being used to track uranium enrichment in Iran, it is a direct, explicit part of their business. Even if you do nothing else of impact in your life, you can stop defending the bad guys.
- basket_horse 9mo agoSo because they show people how to use their software they’re evil?
- foobiekr 9mo agoThey aren't just showing people how to use their software. Stop defending the bad guys.
- basket_horse 9mo agoI’m not defending the “bad guys”. The original argument was about moral culpability based on distance from the bad deed. Microsoft could have just as easily refused Azure for the ICE contract, but they didn’t, yet somehow they are just far enough away to not be culpable.