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US tech companies aren’t built to be like 3M is/was and able to have their hands in infinite pies. The giant conglomerates in Asia seem more able to do it. Go

by bombcar 10mo ago

US tech companies aren’t built to be like 3M is/was and able to have their hands in infinite pies. The giant conglomerates in Asia seem more able to do it. Google has somewhat tried but then famously kills most everything even things that could be successful if smaller businesses.

roughly 10mo ago
I think there's something about both the myth of the unicorn and of the hero founder/CEO in tech that forces a push towards legibility and easy narratives for a company - it means that, to a greater degree than other industries, large tech companies are a storytelling exercise, and "giant corporate blob that sprawls into everything" isn't a sexy story, nor is "consistent 3% YoY gains," even when that's translating into "we added the GDP of a medium-sized country to our cash pile again this year." Every time a CEO or company board says "focus," an interesting product line loses its wings.
- flyinglizard 10mo ago
  It's because the storytelling needed for Wall Street. It's the only way to get sky high revenue multiples, selling a dream, because if you're a conglomerate all you can do is to sell the P&L - it's like selling an index. If you have a business division that's does exceedingly well compared to the rest, you make more money by spinning it off. I think Asian companies are much less dependent on public markets and have as strong private control (chaebols in South Korea for example - Samsung, LG, Hyundai etc). If you look at US companies that are under "family control" you might see a similar sprawl, like Cargill, Koch, I'd even put Berkshire in this class even though it's not "family controlled" in the literal sense, it's still associated with two men and not a professional CEO.
m4rtink 10mo ago
Yeah, it is insane what areas and products companies like Mitsubishi, Samsung, IHI or even Suntory are involved in.
eldenring 10mo ago
I think this is more of a result of big US tech being extremely productive (with their main competency)
davedx 10mo ago
Think Google has done a pretty good job at that actually! Consider their various enterprises that weren't killed: * Search/ads * YouTube * Android/Play, Chrome, Maps * Google Cloud, Workspace * Pixel, Nest, Fitbit * Waymo, DeepMind * Google fiber They're not a conglomerate like Alibaba but they're far from a one-trick pony, either :)

by bombcar 10mo ago

roughly 10mo ago

I think there's something about both the myth of the unicorn and of the hero founder/CEO in tech that forces a push towards legibility and easy narratives for a company - it means that, to a greater degree than other industries, large tech companies are a storytelling exercise, and "giant corporate blob that sprawls into everything" isn't a sexy story, nor is "consistent 3% YoY gains," even when that's translating into "we added the GDP of a medium-sized country to our cash pile again this year." Every time a CEO or company board says "focus," an interesting product line loses its wings.

flyinglizard 10mo ago
It's because the storytelling needed for Wall Street. It's the only way to get sky high revenue multiples, selling a dream, because if you're a conglomerate all you can do is to sell the P&L - it's like selling an index. If you have a business division that's does exceedingly well compared to the rest, you make more money by spinning it off. I think Asian companies are much less dependent on public markets and have as strong private control (chaebols in South Korea for example - Samsung, LG, Hyundai etc). If you look at US companies that are under "family control" you might see a similar sprawl, like Cargill, Koch, I'd even put Berkshire in this class even though it's not "family controlled" in the literal sense, it's still associated with two men and not a professional CEO.

m4rtink 10mo ago

Yeah, it is insane what areas and products companies like Mitsubishi, Samsung, IHI or even Suntory are involved in.

eldenring 10mo ago

I think this is more of a result of big US tech being extremely productive (with their main competency)

davedx 10mo ago

Think Google has done a pretty good job at that actually! Consider their various enterprises that weren't killed: * Search/ads * YouTube * Android/Play, Chrome, Maps * Google Cloud, Workspace * Pixel, Nest, Fitbit * Waymo, DeepMind * Google fiber They're not a conglomerate like Alibaba but they're far from a one-trick pony, either :)