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Blue cities should have local citizen backed militias under the control of the mayor.

staplers 9mo ago
The national guard exists for this purpose (state level) but is mostly captured by federal interests. Local PD's could in effect do something similar but have shown to back the authoritarian-aligned party. Propaganda has aligned nearly every single level of law enforcement to authoritarianism. I can't see a scenario where this is undone.
- bee_rider 9mo ago
  Some states also have a “state defense force” which is explicitly under the control of the state. But they tend to be pretty small I think, and lots of them are inactive or purely ceremonial.
zbentley 9mo ago
How would that be different from current municipal police forces?
- ceejayoz 9mo ago
  The "under the control of the mayor" bit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrolmen%27s_Benevolent_Association_Riot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrolmen%27s_Benevolent_Assoc... > Approximately 4,000 NYPD officers took part in a protest that included blocking traffic on the Brooklyn Bridge and jumping over police barricades in an attempt to rush City Hall. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_San_Francisco_Police_Department https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_San_Francisco_P... > The ACLU obtained a court order prohibiting strikers from carrying their service revolvers. Again, the SFPD ignored the court order. On August 20, a bomb detonated at the Mayor's home with a sign reading "Don't Threaten Us" left on his lawn. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/01/nyregion/chiara-de-blasio-arrest.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/01/nyregion/chiara-de-blasio... > Among the hundreds of protesters arrested over the four days of demonstrations in New York City over the killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis, only one was highlighted by name by a police union known for its hostility toward Mayor Bill de Blasio. The name of that protester? Chiara de Blasio, the mayor’s daughter.
  - actionfromafar 9mo ago
    Ah, Rudy Giuliani. I see he was always a creep.
- dragonwriter 9mo ago
  “Under control of the mayor” would be different from many current municipal police forces.
  - treebeard901 9mo ago
    I mean, they are militas so at the end of the day they will protect the people even if they are told not to..
gadders 9mo ago
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- ceejayoz 9mo ago
  If you think there's any city in the US with antifa "under the control of the mayor", phew. I'm not sure what to say to that.
  - gadders 9mo ago
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The national guard exists for this purpose (state level) but is mostly captured by federal interests. Local PD's could in effect do something similar but have shown to back the authoritarian-aligned party. Propaganda has aligned nearly every single level of law enforcement to authoritarianism. I can't see a scenario where this is undone.

bee_rider 9mo ago
Some states also have a “state defense force” which is explicitly under the control of the state. But they tend to be pretty small I think, and lots of them are inactive or purely ceremonial.

zbentley 9mo ago

How would that be different from current municipal police forces?

ceejayoz 9mo ago
The "under the control of the mayor" bit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrolmen%27s_Benevolent_Association_Riot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrolmen%27s_Benevolent_Assoc... > Approximately 4,000 NYPD officers took part in a protest that included blocking traffic on the Brooklyn Bridge and jumping over police barricades in an attempt to rush City Hall. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_San_Francisco_Police_Department https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_San_Francisco_P... > The ACLU obtained a court order prohibiting strikers from carrying their service revolvers. Again, the SFPD ignored the court order. On August 20, a bomb detonated at the Mayor's home with a sign reading "Don't Threaten Us" left on his lawn. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/01/nyregion/chiara-de-blasio-arrest.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/01/nyregion/chiara-de-blasio... > Among the hundreds of protesters arrested over the four days of demonstrations in New York City over the killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis, only one was highlighted by name by a police union known for its hostility toward Mayor Bill de Blasio. The name of that protester? Chiara de Blasio, the mayor’s daughter.
- actionfromafar 9mo ago
  Ah, Rudy Giuliani. I see he was always a creep.
dragonwriter 9mo ago
“Under control of the mayor” would be different from many current municipal police forces.
- treebeard901 9mo ago
  I mean, they are militas so at the end of the day they will protect the people even if they are told not to..

gadders 9mo ago

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ceejayoz 9mo ago
If you think there's any city in the US with antifa "under the control of the mayor", phew. I'm not sure what to say to that.
- gadders 9mo ago
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