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Pretty ominous line here for ProtonVPN users: "All VPN providers, except ProtonVPN, appeared in court to argue a defense. They raised various arguments, with t
by everdrive 9mo ago
Pretty ominous line here for ProtonVPN users:
"All VPN providers, except ProtonVPN, appeared in court to argue a defense. They raised various arguments, with the “no-log” defense from Surfshark and NordVPN standing out."
- 0x3f 9mo agoWhat's ominous about it?
- petcat 9mo agoProton is relocating their servers out of Switzerland and into Germany over privacy concerns. They are now facing the possibility of the same privacy concerns in EU countries. Ironically, the safest place to host a private VPN service may actually be USA given the way privacy-related things in the EU are going.
- 0x3f 9mo agoThe EU member states are still sovereign, though. This French court ruling doesn't really affect the prospects of certain kinds of privacy in Germany. I think the parent might have been referring to the fact they didn't raise a no-log argument, thus implying they do log. But I don't think that makes much sense either.
- squigz 9mo ago> Ironically, the safest place to host a private VPN service may actually be USA given the way privacy-related things in the EU are going. Why, because American companies are never forced to do things because of copyright and/or law enforcement?
- jacquesm 9mo agoThe main reason for Protonmail's existence is that they are not hosted in the USA.
- CommanderData 9mo agoSwitzerland has lax laws on piracy for personal use so I'm quite surprised by this.
- LightBug1 9mo agoLazy af, to start with ... considering it's their wheelhouse ...