> (you might call them slogans?) You’re being ridiculous. These are not slogans, and no one arguing in good faith would claim they are. https://youtu.be/l0K4X

> (you might call them slogans?) You’re being ridiculous. These are not slogans, and no one arguing in good faith would claim they are. https://youtu.be/l0K4XPu3Qhg?t=60 https://youtu.be/l0K4XPu3Qhg?t=60 > but they definitely provided some real measurable value. Something which provides value can still be a scam. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46614364 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46614364 I addressed all your points some eight levels up the thread.