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> I promise you with all my heart You have such a deep misanthropic view that it's prevented you from seeing anything outside of it. You're preaching a faith

by themafia 10mo ago

> I promise you with all my heart You have such a deep misanthropic view that it's prevented you from seeing anything outside of it. You're preaching a faith not practicing an understanding of the world. > Nobody is buying a gigantic vehicle There are tons of contractors, laborers, small business and property owners who need the space or the utility of the vehicle. The reason these vehicles sell well is because they come in _tons_ of configurations. > because it has seats that are easy to clean No, that's why the manufacturer puts them in there, it helps them sell more vehicles by expanding their options. > People are bad with money Just.. like.. universally? Then how do you explain the number of billionaires and millionaires in this country? Let me guess.. from your heart it's 110% graft and corruption and 0% skill and sense and building wealth? > I talk to my car selling friends, Who has "car selling friends?" Your access to anecdotal information may not be helping you. > It’s one of the strongest social signals people purchase. We know this.. how?

arcticbull 10mo ago
> According to Edwards’ data, 75 percent of truck owners use their truck for towing one time a year or less (meaning, never). Nearly 70 percent of truck owners go off-road one time a year or less. And a full 35 percent of truck owners use their truck for hauling—putting something in the bed, its ostensible raison d’être—once a year or less. > So what do people actually like about trucks? According to Edwards, the answer is counterintuitive. Truck drivers use their trucks very much like other car owners: for commuting to and from work, presumably alone. The thing that most distinguishes truck owners from those of other vehicles is their sheer love of driving. “The highest indexed use among truck owners is pleasure driving,” says Edwards. Truck drivers use their vehicles this way fully twice as often as the industry average. “This is the freedom that trucks offer,” says Edwards. https://www.thedrive.com/news/26907/you-dont-need-a-full-size-pickup-truck-you-need-a-cowboy-costume https://www.thedrive.com/news/26907/you-dont-need-a-full-siz... The F-series is the best selling car family in the US. Some of them are using it for its intended purpose sure, the majority are just using it as parent said, a luxobarge.
- parineum 10mo ago
  > the majority are just using it as parent said, a luxobarge 25% use it for towing. 30% use it off road. 65% use it for hauling. Obviously there's overlap but how many people do none of those three? It's less than 35% which is not a majority.
  - mlrtime 10mo ago
    100% because they want to and it's their choice. Can't believe we sit here and judge people for choosing to drive a truck or not.
  - arcticbull 10mo ago
    one time a year or less was the suffix for each of these, many more people fall into the once a month or so category. The economical thing to do is buy a civic and rent a truck the one time a year you use it for truck things.
    - parineum 10mo ago
      How many people driving a civic never have someone in the back seat?
      - arcticbull 10mo ago
        If your argument is that most Americans should be on public transit and save the average $500,000 they spend during their lives on private vehicles then I completely agree. If you're saying "a less bad thing is still bad!" then your comment reads more like the "We should improve society somewhat. / Yet you participate in society. Curious! I am very intelligent." meme.
        parineum 10mo ago
        The argument seems to ve that trucks are bad because people don't use them to 100% capacity all the time. People generally buy vehicles for to fit all of their needs not 95% of them. My back seat and trunk are almost always empty and my passenger seat is mostly empty.
kulahan 10mo ago
>You have such a deep misanthropic view For being certain about something based on industry data? >There are tons of contractors, laborers, small business and property owners who need the space or the utility of the vehicle. And if that was the majority of these purchasers, this would be a reasonable response, but the extreme majority of truck owners use their truck for its intended purpose ONCE A YEAR. Bro just rent it from frickin' Home Depot and drive a Camry. >No, that's why the manufacturer puts them in there Ah, and of course the cheaper cars are purposely given seats which aren't cleanable? Or is it still correct that in the context of our conversation, it's nothing special and completely unrelated to how most people use their car? It's not within a million miles of a decision point. >Just.. like.. universally? Yes. You got it. I literally meant that every single person on the planet, rich, poor, and everything in between, is bad with money. I certainly wasn't making a hyperbolic point to bring an idea to the forefront - incredible detective work. >Who has "car selling friends?" I buy a lot of cars, and eventually made friends with the people I keep buying them from. We hang out sometimes. Do you just... not make friends with anyone? >We know this.. how? Who knows? My friends actually sit around talking about the specs on their refrigerators and the color options. They tinker in the garage on the cooling coils for hours a day. You should see how smooth the drawers in mine are.

arcticbull 10mo ago

> According to Edwards’ data, 75 percent of truck owners use their truck for towing one time a year or less (meaning, never). Nearly 70 percent of truck owners go off-road one time a year or less. And a full 35 percent of truck owners use their truck for hauling—putting something in the bed, its ostensible raison d’être—once a year or less. > So what do people actually like about trucks? According to Edwards, the answer is counterintuitive. Truck drivers use their trucks very much like other car owners: for commuting to and from work, presumably alone. The thing that most distinguishes truck owners from those of other vehicles is their sheer love of driving. “The highest indexed use among truck owners is pleasure driving,” says Edwards. Truck drivers use their vehicles this way fully twice as often as the industry average. “This is the freedom that trucks offer,” says Edwards. https://www.thedrive.com/news/26907/you-dont-need-a-full-size-pickup-truck-you-need-a-cowboy-costume https://www.thedrive.com/news/26907/you-dont-need-a-full-siz... The F-series is the best selling car family in the US. Some of them are using it for its intended purpose sure, the majority are just using it as parent said, a luxobarge.

parineum 10mo ago
> the majority are just using it as parent said, a luxobarge 25% use it for towing. 30% use it off road. 65% use it for hauling. Obviously there's overlap but how many people do none of those three? It's less than 35% which is not a majority.
- mlrtime 10mo ago
  100% because they want to and it's their choice. Can't believe we sit here and judge people for choosing to drive a truck or not.
- arcticbull 10mo ago
  one time a year or less was the suffix for each of these, many more people fall into the once a month or so category. The economical thing to do is buy a civic and rent a truck the one time a year you use it for truck things.
  - parineum 10mo ago
    How many people driving a civic never have someone in the back seat?
    - arcticbull 10mo ago
      If your argument is that most Americans should be on public transit and save the average $500,000 they spend during their lives on private vehicles then I completely agree. If you're saying "a less bad thing is still bad!" then your comment reads more like the "We should improve society somewhat. / Yet you participate in society. Curious! I am very intelligent." meme.
      - parineum 10mo ago
        The argument seems to ve that trucks are bad because people don't use them to 100% capacity all the time. People generally buy vehicles for to fit all of their needs not 95% of them. My back seat and trunk are almost always empty and my passenger seat is mostly empty.

kulahan 10mo ago

>You have such a deep misanthropic view For being certain about something based on industry data? >There are tons of contractors, laborers, small business and property owners who need the space or the utility of the vehicle. And if that was the majority of these purchasers, this would be a reasonable response, but the extreme majority of truck owners use their truck for its intended purpose ONCE A YEAR. Bro just rent it from frickin' Home Depot and drive a Camry. >No, that's why the manufacturer puts them in there Ah, and of course the cheaper cars are purposely given seats which aren't cleanable? Or is it still correct that in the context of our conversation, it's nothing special and completely unrelated to how most people use their car? It's not within a million miles of a decision point. >Just.. like.. universally? Yes. You got it. I literally meant that every single person on the planet, rich, poor, and everything in between, is bad with money. I certainly wasn't making a hyperbolic point to bring an idea to the forefront - incredible detective work. >Who has "car selling friends?" I buy a lot of cars, and eventually made friends with the people I keep buying them from. We hang out sometimes. Do you just... not make friends with anyone? >We know this.. how? Who knows? My friends actually sit around talking about the specs on their refrigerators and the color options. They tinker in the garage on the cooling coils for hours a day. You should see how smooth the drawers in mine are.