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>go download a model GP was talking about commercially hosted LLMs running in datacenters, not free Chinese models. Local is definitely still improving. That

>go download a model GP was talking about commercially hosted LLMs running in datacenters, not free Chinese models. Local is definitely still improving. That’s another reason the megacenter model (NVDA’s big line up forever plan) is either a financial catastrophe about to happen, or the biggest bailout ever.

wahnfrieden 9mo ago
GPT 5.2 is an incredible leap over 5.1 / 5
- hadlock 9mo ago
  5.2 is great if you ask it engineering questions, or questions an engineer might ask. It is extremely mid, and actually worse than the o3/o4 era models if you start asking it trivia like if the I-80 tunnel on the bay bridge (yerba buena island) is the largest bore in the world. Don't even get me started on whatever model is wired up to the voice chat button. But yes it will write you a flawless, physics accurate flight simulator in rust on the first try. I've proven that. I guess what I'm trying to say is Anthropic was eating their lunch at coding, and OpenAI rose to the challenge, but if you're not doing engineering tasks their current models are arguably worse than older ones.
  - SoftTalker 9mo ago
    My impression is that software developers are the lions share of people actually paying for AI, but perhaps that's just my bubble world view.
    - wahnfrieden 9mo ago
      According to OpenAI it's something like 4.2% of the use. But this data is from before Codex added subscription support and I think only covers ChatGPT (back when most people were using ChatGPT for coding work, before agents got good). https://i.imgur.com/0XG2CKE.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/0XG2CKE.jpeg
      - SoftTalker 9mo ago
        I'd believe that but I was commenting on who actually pays for it. My guess is that most individuals using AI in their personal lives are using some sort of free tier.
        wahnfrieden 9mo ago
        Yes 95% are unpaid
      - hadlock 9mo ago
        The execs I've talked to, they are paying for it to answer capex questions, as a sounding board for decision making, and perhaps most importantly, crafting/modifying emails for tone/content. In the bay area particularly a lot of execs are foreign with english as their second language and LLMs can cut email generation time in half.
  - magicalhippo 9mo ago
    But how many are willing to fork over $20 or so a month to ask simple trivia questions?
    - hadlock 9mo ago
      In addition to engineering tasks, it's an ad-free answer-box, outside of cross checking things, or browsing search results it's totally replaced Google/search engine use for me. I also pay for Kagi for search. In the last year I've been able to fully divorce myself from the google ecosystem besides gmail and maps.
- binary132 9mo ago
  how is “GPT 5.2 is good” a response to “downloadable models aren’t relevant”?

wahnfrieden 9mo ago

GPT 5.2 is an incredible leap over 5.1 / 5

hadlock 9mo ago
5.2 is great if you ask it engineering questions, or questions an engineer might ask. It is extremely mid, and actually worse than the o3/o4 era models if you start asking it trivia like if the I-80 tunnel on the bay bridge (yerba buena island) is the largest bore in the world. Don't even get me started on whatever model is wired up to the voice chat button. But yes it will write you a flawless, physics accurate flight simulator in rust on the first try. I've proven that. I guess what I'm trying to say is Anthropic was eating their lunch at coding, and OpenAI rose to the challenge, but if you're not doing engineering tasks their current models are arguably worse than older ones.
- SoftTalker 9mo ago
  My impression is that software developers are the lions share of people actually paying for AI, but perhaps that's just my bubble world view.
  - wahnfrieden 9mo ago
    According to OpenAI it's something like 4.2% of the use. But this data is from before Codex added subscription support and I think only covers ChatGPT (back when most people were using ChatGPT for coding work, before agents got good). https://i.imgur.com/0XG2CKE.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/0XG2CKE.jpeg
    - SoftTalker 9mo ago
      I'd believe that but I was commenting on who actually pays for it. My guess is that most individuals using AI in their personal lives are using some sort of free tier.
      - wahnfrieden 9mo ago
        Yes 95% are unpaid
    - hadlock 9mo ago
      The execs I've talked to, they are paying for it to answer capex questions, as a sounding board for decision making, and perhaps most importantly, crafting/modifying emails for tone/content. In the bay area particularly a lot of execs are foreign with english as their second language and LLMs can cut email generation time in half.
- magicalhippo 9mo ago
  But how many are willing to fork over $20 or so a month to ask simple trivia questions?
  - hadlock 9mo ago
    In addition to engineering tasks, it's an ad-free answer-box, outside of cross checking things, or browsing search results it's totally replaced Google/search engine use for me. I also pay for Kagi for search. In the last year I've been able to fully divorce myself from the google ecosystem besides gmail and maps.
binary132 9mo ago
how is “GPT 5.2 is good” a response to “downloadable models aren’t relevant”?