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Is there a better stock market than the US stock market?

therobots927 9mo ago
VEA. Look it up. Europe, Hong Kong, etc have been outperforming the US for over a year now. Google the ticker and compare to VTI then get back to me. And that’s without even mentioning gold.
- no_wizard 9mo ago
  My VT shares have risen in bear direct proportion to VTIs relative underperformance. The main difference is the international exposure of VT.
- deadbabe 9mo ago
  I did, and I see most years it has not beaten VTI… and if you invested 10k in them for the past 10 years VTI is near 2.5x more money. May be worth it for diversification, but you’d be very lucky if it outperformed the next 10 years.
- andsoitis 9mo ago
  > for over a year now. What if you zoom out to say, 5 years, 10 years? Or are you predicting that from here on out, VEA will outperform say, the S&P500 and the NASDAQ?
  - therobots927 9mo ago
    Yes I think it will outperform. I don’t know if you’ve seen the recent news in the US but things are going downhill very quickly. I don’t expect us to stay out of a recession for long once our government collapses into a dictatorship.
    - deadbabe 9mo ago
      Unfortunately you seem to forget that money movements are amoral. A country could be a brutal dictatorship and still be a great place to grow your wealth. Investors aren’t going to willingly make themselves poorer just because Americans are in a private hell of their own making. America is still the world’s top consumer. People are broke because they literally consume too much. Debt slaves will make you RICH.
scarmig 9mo ago
Not really, but diversification often useful; it reduces variance, which is a common goal. And there have been decades (e.g. 2000-2010) where international stocks outperformed American ones.
eftychis 9mo ago
To augment sibling replies: depends on one's, subjective and highly personal, portfolio and financial strategy. But U.S. has a strong stock market(s).
missingcolours 9mo ago
VXUS is up almost twice the S&P 500 year over year, although some of that is likely the weakening of the dollar.
- cesarvarela 9mo ago
  You should also compare risk, not just returns.
- aynyc 9mo ago
  Going back how’s many years? I checked recently and VTI easily out perform in the last 5 years.
- FreakLegion 9mo ago
  Compare them over the last 5 or 10 or 15 years. Since VXUS's inception the S&P has outperformed it by over 7x.
mylifeandtimes 9mo ago
depends what decade you are talking about.

VEA. Look it up. Europe, Hong Kong, etc have been outperforming the US for over a year now. Google the ticker and compare to VTI then get back to me. And that’s without even mentioning gold.

no_wizard 9mo ago
My VT shares have risen in bear direct proportion to VTIs relative underperformance. The main difference is the international exposure of VT.
deadbabe 9mo ago
I did, and I see most years it has not beaten VTI… and if you invested 10k in them for the past 10 years VTI is near 2.5x more money. May be worth it for diversification, but you’d be very lucky if it outperformed the next 10 years.
andsoitis 9mo ago
> for over a year now. What if you zoom out to say, 5 years, 10 years? Or are you predicting that from here on out, VEA will outperform say, the S&P500 and the NASDAQ?
- therobots927 9mo ago
  Yes I think it will outperform. I don’t know if you’ve seen the recent news in the US but things are going downhill very quickly. I don’t expect us to stay out of a recession for long once our government collapses into a dictatorship.
  - deadbabe 9mo ago
    Unfortunately you seem to forget that money movements are amoral. A country could be a brutal dictatorship and still be a great place to grow your wealth. Investors aren’t going to willingly make themselves poorer just because Americans are in a private hell of their own making. America is still the world’s top consumer. People are broke because they literally consume too much. Debt slaves will make you RICH.

scarmig 9mo ago

Not really, but diversification often useful; it reduces variance, which is a common goal. And there have been decades (e.g. 2000-2010) where international stocks outperformed American ones.

eftychis 9mo ago

To augment sibling replies: depends on one's, subjective and highly personal, portfolio and financial strategy. But U.S. has a strong stock market(s).

missingcolours 9mo ago

VXUS is up almost twice the S&P 500 year over year, although some of that is likely the weakening of the dollar.

cesarvarela 9mo ago
You should also compare risk, not just returns.
aynyc 9mo ago
Going back how’s many years? I checked recently and VTI easily out perform in the last 5 years.
FreakLegion 9mo ago
Compare them over the last 5 or 10 or 15 years. Since VXUS's inception the S&P has outperformed it by over 7x.

mylifeandtimes 9mo ago

depends what decade you are talking about.