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EU-US relationship is 'disintegrating,' says Germany's vice chancellor
- selectodude 10mo ago[flagged]
- Neywiny 10mo agoIncandescent or incessant?
- i80and 10mo agoI'm sympathetic to the position that a lot of people just didn't pay attention before voting in the '24 election and voted purely off of some incomprehensibly puerile vibes, but the complete apathy I'm still seeing is equal parts profoundly tragic and utterly crazy-making. Even if the US backs down, the transatlantic coziness that's felt like a permanent fixture all my life is just gone. And if we don't back down, God help everybody.
- tosapple 10mo agoMaybe part of the problem is faith in the courts to sort this all out. Notoriously, they take forever. I'm going to buy a NAAGGA hat.
- toomuchtodo 10mo agoTurns out investment of any sort in fellow countrymen is somewhat worthless in the US unfortunately. Find your people, and it ain't them (both those who voted for this, and those too bothered to spend the time to vote). The people who voted but didn't vote for this? Those are the folks you put your time and effort into.
- postflopclarity 10mo agoyeah that's what tends to happen when you make several credible threats to invade & seize someone's sovereign territory
- teaearlgraycold 10mo agoHoping that American voters and politicians learn from this.
- le-mark 10mo ago[flagged]
- i80and 10mo agoI just cannot stomach the number of people who apparently value nothing except displays of performative cruelty and childish tantrums. There's been a significant shift of an "ow-I-touched-the-stove" variety towards sanity among independents, but it's a Problem that some significant double-digit percentage of the nation just plain likes this violent self-destructive flailing, and will reward anything as long as it makes them feel like somebody is getting hurt.
- catlover76 10mo ago[dead]
- budududuroiu 10mo agoThey won't, I genuinely believe the vast majority of Americans will call for war, invasion, etc if the price of their "treats" (TVs, cars, gas, ...) gets too out of reach. Consumer prices are the only category that hasn't gone up in price in the last couple of decades. It's basically the only little "treat" you can look forward to while toiling away for peanuts
- tetrisgm 10mo agoIt is interesting to me that right leaning outlets do not seem to think so. They simply think we are entertaining an expansion and a sort of foreign policy shift. European outlets are absolutely terrified and pondering whether this is what will force the end of NATO. This pov isn’t represented in the right.
- dottjt 10mo agoWhen you say "right" are you talking about USA right or European right?
- tetrisgm 10mo agoUSA
- impossiblefork 10mo agoI feel that those who fear the end of NATO aren't thinking far enough. What's possible isn't an end of NATO, it's an EU-US war, with citizens of one in the other being interned, ships being prevented from leaving ports, complete embargoes à la WWII etc. If Denmark is invaded, we're at war, and I don't see how it can take any other form than this in the initial phases.
- kelipso 10mo agoEurope doesn’t have a military that’s worth talking about. So it’s politically impossible for the EU to go to war with the US. They’ll do lots of protesting but that’ll be about it. The US isn’t just going to straight up invade anyway. There’s lots of political this and that but it does want to keep the current world order to some degree.
- timeon 10mo agoNATO is practically dead since beginning of 2025 - there are already countries in Europe willing to form alliance with China.
- lateforwork 10mo agoThe daily dose of distressing news from this administration is taking a toll on my health and I am sure many other Americans. Why aren’t our leaders speaking out more forcefully against these outrages? McConnell did give a speech pushing back, but it barely registered and wasn’t reported nearly enough. Yes, we made a grave mistake in electing the wrong person as president—but that doesn’t mean the country is obligated to sit silently for the next three years while he lurches from one dangerous blunder to the next. If impeachment and conviction aren’t on the table, then the least our leaders—Republicans and Democrats alike—must do is stand together and speak with one clear, unmistakable voice in opposition. Failing to do so isn’t just political cowardice; it carries real consequences. Our credibility with Europe, already strained, will continue to erode if the world sees that American leadership is unwilling or unable to check reckless behavior.
- masfuerte 10mo agoIt's not three more years. The midterms are this year. If the public don't like the status quo the Democrats will gain majorities and things should change. It really is up to the voters to start fixing this. If they want to.
- lateforwork 10mo agoEven if Democrats were to take the House there still wouldn't be anything Democrats can do to stop Trump from attacking Denmark, would there?
- masfuerte 10mo agoThe problem is that Trump is ignoring the law and nobody is doing anything about it. If the Democrats take the House they can impeach him.
- lateforwork 10mo agoImpeachment does not do anything. He has been twice impeached in his first term.
- nephihaha 10mo ago[flagged]
- jleyank 10mo agoPeople better pay attention to this issue if they want to work in the tech field. How the US interacts with its associates governs how products can be marketed, how staffing can be done, how money can be raised, … pretty much everything of interest to the HN community must be seen through this economic and immigration lens. Autarky might be a neat concept to some, but it’ll suck being a startup in that environment. They need customers and staff so restrictions on their scope suck.
- amai 10mo agoDivide et impera! Putin likes what he sees.
- jaybrendansmith 10mo agoMAGA is a Russian Psyops initiative. Very effective.