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I haven't shown my photocard drivers license in literally years to anyone, other than renewing it. I normally just use Birthcert and Utility bills.

nephihaha 9mo ago
Photo ID is common already. Not just driving licences (with a "c") and passports, but in numerous other forms. In Scotland, young people have to prove their age continually, and they have a choice of these or state issued photo bus passes, Young Scot cards (no idea who issues these but commonly used as ID) and student IDs. They're definitely being conditioned into it.
- drawfloat 9mo ago
  I mean yeah they will have to show it if they’re buying booze, cigs, or getting a discounted travel ticket. But I don’t think that’s unreasonable, and “conditioning” feels overly dramatic. Would you rather there were no age checks?
  - nephihaha 9mo ago
    They aren't getting a discounted travel ticket, they're getting free bus travel in return for carrying around a photo ID all the time. (I don't agree with fourteen and fifteen year olds being able to travel on the bus for free at ten or eleven at night on Friday or Saturday and getting up to no good on the public coin. It was sold to the public as a school bus replacement and/or reducing car use. It is an obvious attempt to normalise ID cards.)
- 9JollyOtter 9mo ago
  TBH, I don't care generally what happens up in Scotland.
  - nephihaha 9mo ago
    I live in Scotland, and the scenario here is pretty similar to England. If you live here you hear about England non-stop on the news. In fact, many papers and news channels report England-only developments as if they apply to the rest of the UK.
    - 9JollyOtter 9mo ago
      I generally don't pay attention to the news at all anymore (the vast majority of it is rage bait). I think the last time I paid attention to the BBC news when it was on when the Bibby Stockholm Barge was being moored in Portland. The way the news anchor was talking about it, was as if it was full of Zombies with the T-Virus on-board. While the footage just had a tugboat pulling a barge. It was utterly ridiculous. Outside of that the news seems to be very focused on what happens in London/Westminster, Ukraine, Palestine or Trump. I don't really care about any of those. I only pretty much care about things like Digital ID and stuff like OSA. However Scotland (much like Northern Island) seems like it own little weird microcosm. I don't really understand the political landscape outside of England and whenever I see statements made by the main party up there (the SNP) they seem to be utterly ridiculous jingoist anti-English nonsense that feels like it stems from Braveheart. I am not going to listen to a politician that basically painting me out to be the enemy, which is odd since most Scottish people I've spoken to are quite friendly.

nephihaha 9mo ago

Photo ID is common already. Not just driving licences (with a "c") and passports, but in numerous other forms. In Scotland, young people have to prove their age continually, and they have a choice of these or state issued photo bus passes, Young Scot cards (no idea who issues these but commonly used as ID) and student IDs. They're definitely being conditioned into it.

drawfloat 9mo ago
I mean yeah they will have to show it if they’re buying booze, cigs, or getting a discounted travel ticket. But I don’t think that’s unreasonable, and “conditioning” feels overly dramatic. Would you rather there were no age checks?
- nephihaha 9mo ago
  They aren't getting a discounted travel ticket, they're getting free bus travel in return for carrying around a photo ID all the time. (I don't agree with fourteen and fifteen year olds being able to travel on the bus for free at ten or eleven at night on Friday or Saturday and getting up to no good on the public coin. It was sold to the public as a school bus replacement and/or reducing car use. It is an obvious attempt to normalise ID cards.)
9JollyOtter 9mo ago
TBH, I don't care generally what happens up in Scotland.
- nephihaha 9mo ago
  I live in Scotland, and the scenario here is pretty similar to England. If you live here you hear about England non-stop on the news. In fact, many papers and news channels report England-only developments as if they apply to the rest of the UK.
  - 9JollyOtter 9mo ago
    I generally don't pay attention to the news at all anymore (the vast majority of it is rage bait). I think the last time I paid attention to the BBC news when it was on when the Bibby Stockholm Barge was being moored in Portland. The way the news anchor was talking about it, was as if it was full of Zombies with the T-Virus on-board. While the footage just had a tugboat pulling a barge. It was utterly ridiculous. Outside of that the news seems to be very focused on what happens in London/Westminster, Ukraine, Palestine or Trump. I don't really care about any of those. I only pretty much care about things like Digital ID and stuff like OSA. However Scotland (much like Northern Island) seems like it own little weird microcosm. I don't really understand the political landscape outside of England and whenever I see statements made by the main party up there (the SNP) they seem to be utterly ridiculous jingoist anti-English nonsense that feels like it stems from Braveheart. I am not going to listen to a politician that basically painting me out to be the enemy, which is odd since most Scottish people I've spoken to are quite friendly.