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Except that as a english speaking non american, this happens literally all the time with ecommerce? It's not until I get to checkout I realise they do not ship

by ikr678 9mo ago

Except that as a english speaking non american, this happens literally all the time with ecommerce? It's not until I get to checkout I realise they do not ship to my country or want to deal with me.

crazygringo 9mo ago
International shipping is an entirely different subject. You can assume that .com is American unless otherwise indicated, and that you'll need to check shipping policies. Just like as an American, when I go to a .co.uk ecommerce site, I have to check whether they ship to the US.
- prmoustache 9mo ago
  > You can assume that .com is American unless otherwise Why?
  - crazygringo 9mo ago
    Because the internet was invented in America so it's the only country where a country suffix was never used from the start of its popularity. I'm not saying this is good or bad or justified or not, just saying what the conventions are.
    - prmoustache 9mo ago
      But there have never been a convention that .com was reserved to the US market. co.uk, com.au, com.mx, com.my and co.jp exist for example, but I have never heard of a co.fr, com.it or co.de or org.dk Bottom line: there is no real convention
    - austinjp 9mo ago
      Honestly, unless you're going to say you're confused about .net and .io TLDs this comes across as willfully weaponised naivety.
    - keybored 9mo ago
      > Because the internet was invented in America so it's the only country where a country suffix was never used from the start of its popularity. I expect some countries like the UK and Australia to use something like `co.uk`. I expect many countries to use their own top-level domain. I do not assume that some `.com` website is American. Is “the only” based on experience? How many websites from how many countries have you come across? > I'm not saying this is good or bad or justified or not, just saying what the conventions are. Do people associate `.com` with “company”? Or just “regular website”? Are people even stopped from making a `.com` if they don’t have a “company”? https://www.paiste.com/ https://www.paiste.com/ Is this Swiss business allowed to use `.com` because they have offices in the US of A?
      - crazygringo 9mo ago
        > I do not assume that some `.com` website is American. If it's clearly local to somewhere (news, shopping, etc.) as opposed to global or a webapp or something, and doesn't say it's specific to any other country, then yes people generally assume it's American. Because when sites are intended for audiences in other countries, they usually use a country-specific TLD. Which, for historical reasons, never became a convention in the US since it's where the Internet was invented. If you haven't noticed that this is a clear pattern, I don't know what to tell you.
        prmoustache 9mo ago
        If it is a business, people expect the .com is the global/international/headquarters address, not an us specific one per se. Some will have other country codes mostly to avoid phishing but some only redirect it to a subpath on the com website to handle regionalities/languages. Random examples of foreign brands/companys in completely different industries: https://www.nestle.com https://www.nestle.com is the "global" address of Nestle, a Swiss company. Mitsubushi, a japanes company uses https://www.mitsubishi.com https://www.mitsubishi.com with a /ja subpath to handle japanese language. The FIFA, the Fédération Internationale de Football Association which was founded in Paris, France and is know headquartered in Zurich, Switzerland, uses fifa.com as its main domain despite having several regional office accross the globe but none in the US.
    - GJim 9mo ago
      > Because the internet was invented in America And the web by a Brit working in Switzerland. It all runs on Chinese hardware with software written by people (and their dogs) from every nation on earth. The point, if there is one, is buried in the details.
      - crazygringo 9mo ago
        What does any of that have to do with anything? The subject is DNS names. Here, read the history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System
  - hdgvhicv 9mo ago
    American exceptionalism.
- Natfan 9mo ago
  .com means .company. USAmerican have .us, i don't need a reason why you would need to claim that .com is USAmerican, unless you live in a very small bubble

by ikr678 9mo ago

Except that as a english speaking non american, this happens literally all the time with ecommerce? It's not until I get to checkout I realise they do not ship to my country or want to deal with me.

crazygringo 9mo ago

International shipping is an entirely different subject. You can assume that .com is American unless otherwise indicated, and that you'll need to check shipping policies. Just like as an American, when I go to a .co.uk ecommerce site, I have to check whether they ship to the US.

prmoustache 9mo ago
> You can assume that .com is American unless otherwise Why?
- crazygringo 9mo ago
  Because the internet was invented in America so it's the only country where a country suffix was never used from the start of its popularity. I'm not saying this is good or bad or justified or not, just saying what the conventions are.
  - prmoustache 9mo ago
    But there have never been a convention that .com was reserved to the US market. co.uk, com.au, com.mx, com.my and co.jp exist for example, but I have never heard of a co.fr, com.it or co.de or org.dk Bottom line: there is no real convention
  - austinjp 9mo ago
    Honestly, unless you're going to say you're confused about .net and .io TLDs this comes across as willfully weaponised naivety.
  - keybored 9mo ago
    > Because the internet was invented in America so it's the only country where a country suffix was never used from the start of its popularity. I expect some countries like the UK and Australia to use something like `co.uk`. I expect many countries to use their own top-level domain. I do not assume that some `.com` website is American. Is “the only” based on experience? How many websites from how many countries have you come across? > I'm not saying this is good or bad or justified or not, just saying what the conventions are. Do people associate `.com` with “company”? Or just “regular website”? Are people even stopped from making a `.com` if they don’t have a “company”? https://www.paiste.com/ https://www.paiste.com/ Is this Swiss business allowed to use `.com` because they have offices in the US of A?
    - crazygringo 9mo ago
      > I do not assume that some `.com` website is American. If it's clearly local to somewhere (news, shopping, etc.) as opposed to global or a webapp or something, and doesn't say it's specific to any other country, then yes people generally assume it's American. Because when sites are intended for audiences in other countries, they usually use a country-specific TLD. Which, for historical reasons, never became a convention in the US since it's where the Internet was invented. If you haven't noticed that this is a clear pattern, I don't know what to tell you.
      - prmoustache 9mo ago
        If it is a business, people expect the .com is the global/international/headquarters address, not an us specific one per se. Some will have other country codes mostly to avoid phishing but some only redirect it to a subpath on the com website to handle regionalities/languages. Random examples of foreign brands/companys in completely different industries: https://www.nestle.com https://www.nestle.com is the "global" address of Nestle, a Swiss company. Mitsubushi, a japanes company uses https://www.mitsubishi.com https://www.mitsubishi.com with a /ja subpath to handle japanese language. The FIFA, the Fédération Internationale de Football Association which was founded in Paris, France and is know headquartered in Zurich, Switzerland, uses fifa.com as its main domain despite having several regional office accross the globe but none in the US.
  - GJim 9mo ago
    > Because the internet was invented in America And the web by a Brit working in Switzerland. It all runs on Chinese hardware with software written by people (and their dogs) from every nation on earth. The point, if there is one, is buried in the details.
    - crazygringo 9mo ago
      What does any of that have to do with anything? The subject is DNS names. Here, read the history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System
- hdgvhicv 9mo ago
  American exceptionalism.
Natfan 9mo ago
.com means .company. USAmerican have .us, i don't need a reason why you would need to claim that .com is USAmerican, unless you live in a very small bubble