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GOG's new owner can't stand Windows either: 'It's such poor-quality software '

89 points by truxs 9mo ago

rolph 9mo ago
any word on GOG offering links to upgrade to linux, i think it would speed things up, right now we are almost at the part where the mortally wounded leviathan trashes everything about in its final death throes. it really would be nice for early emancipators to have a comfortable landing, and avoid being subject to collateral damage.
- TheCycoONE 9mo ago
  I suspect they would put out a GOG Galaxy that works on Linux well before promoting it on their web site that aggressively.
  - rolph 9mo ago
    im thinking a GOG box distro [like a KODI box] so there would be less compromise in order to be an OS, and focus on a more console-like UX. im thinking it doesnt have to work "on linux" it has to allow gaming on a linux kernal.
- tracker1 9mo ago
  I'm not familiar enough beyond casual use of Steam on Linux and a few one-offs to know the current state of gaming... but can only posit that a GoG installer/launcher for Linux that uses Proton (like Steam) wouldn't hurt.
  - mepian 9mo ago
    There is the Heroic Game Launcher that also interfaces with the Epic Games Store.
    - oldnetguy 9mo ago
      To me GOG needs a big picture mode like Steam. I want my PC to act like a console and that would help a lot
      - Grisu_FTP 9mo ago
        Why not just add the GOG games to Steam as non Steam games? Isnt that better anyway than having to launch GOG from the Steam BPM just to launch a game from their BPM? Why would i want to launch a seperate launcher to launch my games?
  - epakai 9mo ago
    This is pretty much what Lutris does. I'm using it with already downloaded GOG installers, and Lutris' crowd-sourced install scripts. It looks like they do account integration, so it might be possible to directly download and install games. It can run things with regular wine or proton installed by steam. There is a lot of complexity compared to Steam or the GOG client.
legitster 9mo ago
So part of me agrees, but part of me also feels like a victim of the boy who cried wolf. People have ragged on Windows going back for as long as I can remember. Only in hindsight did people ever express fondness in public for Windows XP (and maybe a bit for Windows 7). It's hard for me to distinguish how much of the vitriol is legitimate this time from developers, or will nostalgia glasses just haunt Windows forever. I've been using Windows 11 and... it feels fine? If anything, it doesn't feel substantially different enough from Windows 10 to care. My other comparison points are a Macbook and a Steam Deck, and both of them have so many faults of their own that I don't understand the need to rag on Windows in particular.
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- aidenn0 9mo ago
  I was there when XP came out and it was clearly better than any of the entries in the two "parents" that it replaced (NT/Win2k, and 9X/ME). I was the local "hey, my PC is broken" guy and the first thing to try was always to replace whatever version of windows they had with XP. I certainly have some anti-fondness memories as well (I had the service pack burned to a CD because it took longer to download and install the updates than it did to get infected with one of the various worms around at the time), but there was zero doubt in my mind that XP was the best windows yet when it came out.
  - BoredPositron 9mo ago
    Before SP1 it was unusable.
    - hulitu 9mo ago
      > Before SP1 it was unusable. This was the "Release name" for every NT version. RCs were alpha quality, SP1 was the first beta, with SP2 things started to be ok. This was true until 7, then the Gates of hell opened and Windows is now an eternal "release" ( the thing between RC and SP1).
joe_guy 9mo ago
> would you like to purchase an Office 365 subscription? No? Okay I'll ask again tomorrow), Ironic, given their website showed me two unrequested popups.
- 3eb7988a1663 9mo ago
  I keep hoping the EU comes out with a "No Means No" legislation to end this "Ask Again Later" nonsense. Tricky to thread the needle on what would/not be allowed, but the pattern has been abused long enough. Maybe even saying it cannot re-ask for 30 days would be a significant improvement.
theragra 9mo ago
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dahrkael 9mo ago
GOG's business relies on Windows going above and beyond to remain retrocompatible with older versions of itself so trashing on it feels like a shitty move
- freetonik 9mo ago
  Surprisingly, Linux-based distros often have better chances of running old games compared to Windows.
- fgonzag 9mo ago
  wine is probably better for backwards compatibility than modern windows / microsoft.
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deterministic 9mo ago
I am perfectly happy with Windows 10 and want to throw my work Linux PC out the nearest window almost every day because of Linux package dependency hell. I work on different application and are pretty much forced to setup a specific Linux VM for each one to not have package dependency problems. I never had that problem developing on Windows.

89 points by truxs 9mo ago

rolph 9mo ago

any word on GOG offering links to upgrade to linux, i think it would speed things up, right now we are almost at the part where the mortally wounded leviathan trashes everything about in its final death throes. it really would be nice for early emancipators to have a comfortable landing, and avoid being subject to collateral damage.

TheCycoONE 9mo ago
I suspect they would put out a GOG Galaxy that works on Linux well before promoting it on their web site that aggressively.
- rolph 9mo ago
  im thinking a GOG box distro [like a KODI box] so there would be less compromise in order to be an OS, and focus on a more console-like UX. im thinking it doesnt have to work "on linux" it has to allow gaming on a linux kernal.
tracker1 9mo ago
I'm not familiar enough beyond casual use of Steam on Linux and a few one-offs to know the current state of gaming... but can only posit that a GoG installer/launcher for Linux that uses Proton (like Steam) wouldn't hurt.
- mepian 9mo ago
  There is the Heroic Game Launcher that also interfaces with the Epic Games Store.
  - oldnetguy 9mo ago
    To me GOG needs a big picture mode like Steam. I want my PC to act like a console and that would help a lot
    - Grisu_FTP 9mo ago
      Why not just add the GOG games to Steam as non Steam games? Isnt that better anyway than having to launch GOG from the Steam BPM just to launch a game from their BPM? Why would i want to launch a seperate launcher to launch my games?
- epakai 9mo ago
  This is pretty much what Lutris does. I'm using it with already downloaded GOG installers, and Lutris' crowd-sourced install scripts. It looks like they do account integration, so it might be possible to directly download and install games. It can run things with regular wine or proton installed by steam. There is a lot of complexity compared to Steam or the GOG client.

legitster 9mo ago

So part of me agrees, but part of me also feels like a victim of the boy who cried wolf. People have ragged on Windows going back for as long as I can remember. Only in hindsight did people ever express fondness in public for Windows XP (and maybe a bit for Windows 7). It's hard for me to distinguish how much of the vitriol is legitimate this time from developers, or will nostalgia glasses just haunt Windows forever. I've been using Windows 11 and... it feels fine? If anything, it doesn't feel substantially different enough from Windows 10 to care. My other comparison points are a Macbook and a Steam Deck, and both of them have so many faults of their own that I don't understand the need to rag on Windows in particular.

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aidenn0 9mo ago
I was there when XP came out and it was clearly better than any of the entries in the two "parents" that it replaced (NT/Win2k, and 9X/ME). I was the local "hey, my PC is broken" guy and the first thing to try was always to replace whatever version of windows they had with XP. I certainly have some anti-fondness memories as well (I had the service pack burned to a CD because it took longer to download and install the updates than it did to get infected with one of the various worms around at the time), but there was zero doubt in my mind that XP was the best windows yet when it came out.
- BoredPositron 9mo ago
  Before SP1 it was unusable.
  - hulitu 9mo ago
    > Before SP1 it was unusable. This was the "Release name" for every NT version. RCs were alpha quality, SP1 was the first beta, with SP2 things started to be ok. This was true until 7, then the Gates of hell opened and Windows is now an eternal "release" ( the thing between RC and SP1).

joe_guy 9mo ago

> would you like to purchase an Office 365 subscription? No? Okay I'll ask again tomorrow), Ironic, given their website showed me two unrequested popups.

3eb7988a1663 9mo ago
I keep hoping the EU comes out with a "No Means No" legislation to end this "Ask Again Later" nonsense. Tricky to thread the needle on what would/not be allowed, but the pattern has been abused long enough. Maybe even saying it cannot re-ask for 30 days would be a significant improvement.

theragra 9mo ago

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dahrkael 9mo ago

GOG's business relies on Windows going above and beyond to remain retrocompatible with older versions of itself so trashing on it feels like a shitty move

freetonik 9mo ago
Surprisingly, Linux-based distros often have better chances of running old games compared to Windows.
fgonzag 9mo ago
wine is probably better for backwards compatibility than modern windows / microsoft.

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deterministic 9mo ago

I am perfectly happy with Windows 10 and want to throw my work Linux PC out the nearest window almost every day because of Linux package dependency hell. I work on different application and are pretty much forced to setup a specific Linux VM for each one to not have package dependency problems. I never had that problem developing on Windows.