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That's great news, it really is. But I'm always curious as to the direction of causation. I would love to sleep more - sure. If only it were that easy. I cann

by gxs 14y ago

That's great news, it really is. But I'm always curious as to the direction of causation. I would love to sleep more - sure. If only it were that easy. I cannot get a good night sleep for the life of me. Eliminating legumes and gluten, along with a shitton of crossfit has left me with the best results so far. I guess I'm not making too grandiose a point. All I'm saying is that people that are over weight may not be sleeping well because they are over weight and not the other way around.

corin_ 14y ago
From the (briefly explained) sound of this experiment, they showed a big difference in the same people based on sleep levels, so it's more than "fat people slep less, therefore lack of sleep is the cause".
daeken 14y ago
> All I'm saying is that people that are over weight may not be sleeping well because they are over weight and not the other way around. That's definitely backed up by the links between, say, sleep apnea and obesity. I've been obese all my life, and every time I lose or gain weight (even 10-20lbs, which isn't that much for me) I feel the impact on my sleep above all else.
- lrem 14y ago
  I have bmi around 18 and sleep is my biggest problem since my first memories.
  - eru 14y ago
    Underweight can be as much of a problem as overweight.
    - lrem 14y ago
      Misremembered the number. It's actually 19-19.5, quite stable over the years.
alwaysinshade 14y ago
> I cannot get a good night sleep for the life of me. Try low-dose Melatonin combined with 5HTP and stay away from backlit displays for an hour before bed [1]. Large doses of Melatonin leave me groggy the next day, but small doses give me a solid night of sleep and eliminates the bags under my eyes. 5HTP seems to augment the effect and promote a more positive mood the next day. [1] http://news.rpi.edu/update.do?artcenterkey=3074&setappvar=page%281%29 http://news.rpi.edu/update.do?artcenterkey=3074&setappva... “Our study shows that a two-hour exposure to light from self-luminous electronic displays can suppress melatonin by about 22 percent. Stimulating the human circadian system to this level may affect sleep in those using the devices prior to bedtime,” said Figueiro.
- rogerbinns 14y ago
  Note that you can automatically adjust the display colour temperature to match the time. I use this and it makes a huge difference. On Linux use Redshift. On other operating systems use f.lux. http://jonls.dk/redshift/ http://jonls.dk/redshift/ http://stereopsis.com/flux/ http://stereopsis.com/flux/ When you toggle/disable them you realise just what a difference it makes.
- pault 14y ago
  Chase that 5-HTP with some L-Tryptophan. Something about the two getting metabolized into serotonin. It really kicks it up a notch!
ngokevin 14y ago
Timing is a factor to waking up feeling good. You can sleep 4 hours and still wake up alert. Try sleepyti.me.

by gxs 14y ago

corin_ 14y ago

From the (briefly explained) sound of this experiment, they showed a big difference in the same people based on sleep levels, so it's more than "fat people slep less, therefore lack of sleep is the cause".

daeken 14y ago

> All I'm saying is that people that are over weight may not be sleeping well because they are over weight and not the other way around. That's definitely backed up by the links between, say, sleep apnea and obesity. I've been obese all my life, and every time I lose or gain weight (even 10-20lbs, which isn't that much for me) I feel the impact on my sleep above all else.

lrem 14y ago
I have bmi around 18 and sleep is my biggest problem since my first memories.
- eru 14y ago
  Underweight can be as much of a problem as overweight.
  - lrem 14y ago
    Misremembered the number. It's actually 19-19.5, quite stable over the years.

alwaysinshade 14y ago

> I cannot get a good night sleep for the life of me. Try low-dose Melatonin combined with 5HTP and stay away from backlit displays for an hour before bed [1]. Large doses of Melatonin leave me groggy the next day, but small doses give me a solid night of sleep and eliminates the bags under my eyes. 5HTP seems to augment the effect and promote a more positive mood the next day. [1] http://news.rpi.edu/update.do?artcenterkey=3074&setappvar=page%281%29 http://news.rpi.edu/update.do?artcenterkey=3074&setappva... “Our study shows that a two-hour exposure to light from self-luminous electronic displays can suppress melatonin by about 22 percent. Stimulating the human circadian system to this level may affect sleep in those using the devices prior to bedtime,” said Figueiro.

rogerbinns 14y ago
Note that you can automatically adjust the display colour temperature to match the time. I use this and it makes a huge difference. On Linux use Redshift. On other operating systems use f.lux. http://jonls.dk/redshift/ http://jonls.dk/redshift/ http://stereopsis.com/flux/ http://stereopsis.com/flux/ When you toggle/disable them you realise just what a difference it makes.
pault 14y ago
Chase that 5-HTP with some L-Tryptophan. Something about the two getting metabolized into serotonin. It really kicks it up a notch!

ngokevin 14y ago

Timing is a factor to waking up feeling good. You can sleep 4 hours and still wake up alert. Try sleepyti.me.