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It just dawned on me that CoC docs are basically HR for open source. Point to a violation and voila, that person is gone. “Sorry, nothing personal, CoC violatio
by chasd00 10mo ago
It just dawned on me that CoC docs are basically HR for open source. Point to a violation and voila, that person is gone. “Sorry, nothing personal, CoC violation, there’s nothing I can do”.
- MaKey 10mo agoExactly. Without a CoC the persons making hard decisions have to stand behind them. With a CoC they can hide behind the CoC and wash their hands in innocence. This lowers the barrier for making questionable decisions and overall decreases honesty. We've seen this with the suspension of Python core maintainer Tim Peters.
- allreduce 10mo agoHonestly, this is the first argument against CoCs I've seen that I agree with. They do kinda act as a tool to deflect responsibility.
- echelon 10mo agoI had never heard of the Tim Peters incident, but I just googled it. (It's not on his Wikipedia page.) I found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/1ep4dbt/the_shameful_defenestration_of_tim/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/1ep4dbt/the_shamefu... Which points to this: https://chrismcdonough.substack.com/p/the-shameful-defenestration-of-tim https://chrismcdonough.substack.com/p/the-shameful-defenestr... This characterizes it as completely unfair, and the /r/python community seems to agree. Is there a rebuttal from the other side?
- rpdillon 10mo agoWow, I somehow missed all that. That's horrendous. I've always felt that a code of conduct is a tool for bureaucrats to hide behind, and episode doesn't alter my view. Thanks for sharing.