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- fourside 9mo agoFor anyone else who entered a US zip code and was confused by the ‘invalid zip code’ error: this is UK only.
- imzadi 9mo agoYeah, they could reduce confusion by changing "the government" to "the UK government."
- Tom1380 9mo agoIf Americans did the same it would be great
- RIMR 9mo agoGood luck. Americans won't even differentiate Washington State and Washington D.C. Even the AP guidelines say that "Washington" is ubiquitous shorthand for "Washington D.C." and recommends against shortening it to "D.C."
- shermantanktop 9mo agoAmericans do! If you are west of the Rockies, Washington resolves to the west. If you are east, it’s DC, and you have to say “you know, where Nirvana is from.” Don’t get me started on east coast dumdums pronouncing Oregon as “Orry-gone.”
- lazyasciiart 9mo agoThe most hilarious thing is that I learned recently that when they applied to be a state, the people from WA requested to be the state of Columbia. But a Kentucky rep said that would be too easily confused with the District of Columbia, and Congress changed it to Washington.
- GJim 9mo ago> when they applied to be a state, the people from WA Western Australia?
- lazyasciiart 9mo agoYes. Little known fact, it was renamed Washington by Congress.
- deelayman 9mo agoThis is also a problem that exists within countries. My RSS feed is littered with Canadian independent (national) news agencies not defining what municipality article headlines relate to. E.g. "Mayor pushes back against province on xyz issue". Okay, that might be huge news for Timmins Ontario , but maybe BAU for Toronto. Even skimming the lead paragraph doesn't define the city often. *Editting with a point: Perhaps everyone assumes a local audience.
- pierrec 9mo agoAmericans, hm? I see what you did there.
- shermantanktop 9mo agoFine, fine. North Americans.
- gnabgib 9mo agoSo just the three of us up here - Mexico/US/Canada?
- notatoad 9mo agoyour first clue might have been that it does not say "zip code" in either the field label or the error message, it says "postcode".
- MisterTea 9mo agoI doubt most people would bother to think about that detail.
- badc0ffee 9mo agoAustralia and NZ have postcodes, too. If they had made this a .co.uk rather than a .com, there would be no confusion.
- SoftTalker 9mo agoOr the term "pub." In the US it's much more usual to say "bar." Maybe "tavern" but that sounds rather dated to my ear.
- Thews 9mo agoWhen I lived in the PNW people used the word pub more than bar.
- selectodude 9mo agoThat’s because everybody up there thinks that liking soccer makes them English.
- toasterlovin 9mo agoMy sense is that it is an affectation meant to indicate an aspiration to something more than a bar (and its coarse patrons).
- tshaddox 9mo ago"Bar" is certainly the catch-all term in the U.S., but "pub" is also very widely understood to refer to a specific type of bar, especially (but not limited to) bars deliberately styled as Irish or British pubs.
- xrownow 9mo agoAny plans to release the code? Would be nice to allow others to do something similar for their local pubs.
- amouat 9mo agoSeems to be England only. No results for Edinburgh.
- rcbdev 9mo agoSilly me, I entered an Austrian zip code out of principle. Did not expect it to work, though, of course.
- jaffa2 9mo agoSeems to be England only.
- jihadjihad 9mo agoI like how the status values could be used as labels of economic wellbeing for people, too: Somehow Fine Feeling It Struggling Fucked Absolutely Fucked
- stonegray 9mo agoStealing this for error logging levels
- jihadjihad 9mo agos/Somehow/Possibly/g haha but I like that idea!
- cyberpunk 9mo agoThe bristol stool scale also works well. Although that’s better for sprint planning maybe..
- dylan604 9mo agoso...you got me. thinking it might have something to do with out worn the stools in your pub are. nope it's just, you know, stool.
- grumblepeet 9mo agoI live in south Bristol where the “Bristol stool scale” and the “pubs that need your help” overlap distressingly.
- s1mplicissimus 9mo agoThanks for pointing out the stool scale. I went from "hahaha I'm sure this some kind of 'how shitty stuff is'" to "let me see how it works" to "oh, it's actually a useful medical chart" lol
- rconti 9mo agoInterest in context on "government pub rates". New tax scheme?
- cjs_ac 9mo agoChanges to property taxes on business premises.
- amiga386 9mo agoExisting tax. Proposed new calculation for the "value" of business property, disproportionately affecting pubs. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8e57dexly1o https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8e57dexly1o > In her November Budget, Chancellor Rachel Reeves scaled back business rate discounts that have been in force since the pandemic from 75% to 40% - and announced that there would be no discount at all from April. That, combined with big upward adjustments to rateable values of pub premises, left landlords with the prospect of much higher rates bills. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_rates_in_England https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_rates_in_England > Properties are assessed in a rating list with a rateable value, a valuation of their annual rental value on a fixed valuation date using assumptions fixed by statute. Rating lists are created and maintained by the Valuation Office Agency, a UK government executive agency.
- rconti 9mo agoAh, interesting. So it sounds like the tax roughly scales with property value (or size). And pubs are probably a "poor use of land" because the revenue per square foot is not particularly high?
- amiga386 9mo agoYes. It scales with a government agency's estimate of the property's annual rent (even if you own it), based on market rates in the area over the past two years, which they then scale up/down based on floorspace and how dilapidated the building is. You pay a percentage of the hypothetical rent as tax. There is a lower rate if you're a small business, and there are also tax reliefs for various reasons (charity, partial building occupation, etc.) But pubs have been in trouble for quite some time: https://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Article/2025/05/27/number-of-pub-closures-over-past-25-years/ https://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Article/2025/05/27/numbe... Pubs have high costs, small margins and customers are extremely price-sensitive. What pubs are generally asking for is more types of relief, because what we tend to see is pubs close, people in the area become more isolated, and the building remains empty for years thereafter. [] Pubs appreciated the post-COVID relief, but tax rates are about to shoot up. [] fun fact: if the building is vacant, its landlord must pay rates as if it's 100% occupied. Hence this brazen scheme where a man puts a snail farm in every room so you can pay the rates of an agricultural enterprise: https://www.theguardian.com/news/ng-interactive/2025/dec/04/the-long-read-snail-farm-tax-avoidance-scheme-terry-ball https://www.theguardian.com/news/ng-interactive/2025/dec/04/...
- fauria 9mo agoFind an English pub that needs you.
- QuercusMax 9mo agoYeah, I have NO clue what this site is even about.
- 9JollyOtter 9mo agoIt is a "use it or lose it" style campaign by the looks of it. Lots of Pubs in the UK are closing down in recent years. Pubs have traditionally been a big part of socialising in the UK. I don't drink anymore so I don't bother unless I am having a pub lunch on a Friday.
- prmoustache 9mo agoCan't you drink non-alcoholic beverage? If the point is socialising, alcohol is not a requirement. I know a lot of bars in my area also are places to play board games nowadays.
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- 9JollyOtter 9mo ago> Can't you drink non-alcoholic beverage? If the point is socialising, alcohol is not a requirement. It kinda is though depending on who you go to the bar with. I went to the bar to get fucked up, a lot of my career I've worked in toxic workplaces, so have stressful day and work and then hit the bar. Most of my mates at the time were heavy drinkers. We are talking about people that would have 6 beers and the bar and have a bottle of Rioja when they get home. Some of these dudes have turned out to be scumbags. Once I stopped drinking, I never spoke to them again. Not once. So these people weren't my real friends. > I know a lot of bars in my area also are places to play board games nowadays. TBH, when I see people playing board games other than like Chess or Draughts as adults (and there are not children present), I just find it embarrassing like it is like some child day care. I appreciate it is a "me" problem, but I can't stand it.
- sefrost 9mo agoWow a fantastic independent pub near where I used to live in London is seeing its rateable value go up 480%! This website really puts the headlines in to a nice local perspective. It seems like the taxes only go up while the services get worse in the UK, although I’ve been away for 5 years now so maybe things improved.
- moop_moop 9mo agoThe services have certainly not got better in the last 5 years. This Government is fiscally illiterate and has hit the top of the Laffer curve and is now trying to go down the other side.
- fakedang 9mo agoUnfortunately, if an election were to be held today, the morons at Reform would have the greatest chance of winning, thanks to Starmer's ostrich syndrome, Corbyn dividing the Labour vote and the Tories being absolutely irrelevant after 15 years of continuous rule.
- alexfoo 9mo agoDon’t. Just don’t. There’s time for some party to sort themselves out before the next election is due (Aug 2029).
- GrowingSideways 9mo agoI thought Corbyn started his own party? Surely they have time to figure out a way to look more competent than Starmer of all people
- fakedang 9mo agoThe more Corbyn performs, the more the Labour vote will get divided. The same balkanization happened with the Tories and Reform/UKIP.
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- lenerdenator 9mo agoThis might be the single most British website on the internet. I wonder if there's an equivalent use case in the US.
- hunglee2 9mo agobrilliant website which manages to convey classic British humour on a classically British topic. Also shines much needed light on the very serious challenges independent British Pubs are undergoing - these are essential social institutions, social coherence is damaged every time one of these shut down.
- ajb 9mo agoJust getting a totally black map with anonymous coloured dots on both chrome and Firefox. The pub may or may not be fucked, but the website is. (Yes I tried disabling all the dark settings, no difference)
- edent 9mo agoThe one near me which is absolutely fucked, as far as I'm concerned, deserves it. Fighty customers, crap beer, odd opening hours, and half their food menu is off ("sorry mate, we've got no cheese"). Oh, and now their credit card terminal prompts customers for a tip! I love a good pub, but most are crap.
- twic 9mo agoNear me, the (nice but always too busy) Old Dairy is getting a cut, and the (mediocre Arsenal fan packed) Bank of Friendship and Arsenal Tavern are getting obliterated. God exists, and he supports Spurs!
- wat10000 9mo agoPeople really struggle when given a link to a web site that isn't for them, huh.
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- crazygringo 9mo agoNo. It's when the web site doesn't say who it's for at all, that's when everybody struggles. And understandably so.
- wat10000 9mo agoPeople only struggle because of a self-centered view that everything is supposed to be for them, and things that aren't for them are a weird exception. A reasonable person will realize that the fact that they don't understand any of what it's talking about means they're not the target audience, and move on (or poke around out of curiosity).
- crazygringo 9mo agoIt's self-centered to want to communicate well? It's just basic communications skills, and honestly decency, to describe what a thing is and who it's for. Maybe someone who isn't the target audience still wants to learn about the thing? Which this site provides no way of doing. That's the problem. Why choose to be inaccessible like that, when it's so easy to add a couple of works and links? > or poke around out of curiosity You mean like by following links that are supplied? Because that's my complaint: there are no links.
- prmoustache 9mo ago> it's self-centered to want to communicate well? > > It's just basic communications skills, and honestly decency, to describe what a thing is and who it's for What is the main country where dying pubs is such a big subject? For f**ks sake I am not from UK yet it is easy to understand what it is all about from context and language. And I wasn't even aware of that tax change. Pure US arrogance.
- dgxyz 9mo agoHaving watched two alcoholic family members die horribly, spurred on by functioning alcoholic friends whos only social interaction is at the pub through habit only, fuck 'em. Let them die. We need better social spaces which do not have the token cost of drinks to use.
- anfractuosity 9mo agoGreat idea! https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/personal-finance/finance-expert-breaks-down-cost-36369151 https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/personal-finance/finance-expe... shows how little pubs make per pint, very sad. If anyone's curious about cask beer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ud_eTwY4nc&list=PLyDTS7ZG3zcO7XACFuZOR-nPxMDhCwYdd https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ud_eTwY4nc&list=PLyDTS7ZG3z... is a very interesting youtube video series by The Craft Beer Channel.
- hermitcrab 9mo agoMy grandparents were publicans 70+ years ago. Even they they made very little on beer. All the profit was spirits and software drinks. Probably food as well now.
- cyberpunk 9mo ago15 quid for a 25ml of whisky is ridiculous however.
- the_other 9mo agoDepends how old the whisky/whiskey is.
- amiga386 9mo agoDepends on the whisky. You could buy a bottle of Teachers and serve yourself 25ml for 70p. You could buy a bottle of 30-year aged Macallan matured in sherry oak, and serve yourself 25ml for £160. In a pub, you should be able to get a shot of blended whisky for about £4-6, and mass-market single malts (the kind you also find in supermarkets) for about £5-£10. If you don't ask for a specific whisky, they should ask you which one you want, and/or say "is name alright?" and give you one of the cheap ones.
- 9rx 9mo ago> All the profit was spirits and software drinks. What are the margins on a Codeacola?
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- tmp10423288442 9mo agoBroken - getting `ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR` when trying to open it in Chrome
- BolsunBacset 9mo agoThe UK government hates its populace, particularly its natives. Downvote all you want.
- sobiolite 9mo agoThe nearest "absolutely fucked" pub to me hasn't existed since 2008. I'd say they have bigger problems than a rates increase.
- bspammer 9mo agoThey do acknowledge this on the site > Based on VOA data (Nov 2025) which is often inaccurate. Many pubs have also closed since then.
- numbers 9mo agowhat is a "rateable value" here?
- adw 9mo agoProperty tax valuation.
- crazygringo 9mo agoWould be much more helpful if it indicated literally anywhere on the homepage that this was specific to the UK. Being a .com as opposed to a .co.uk, you can't even tell from the domain.
- sva_ 9mo agoLike the big red letters in the title that say "IN BRITAIN"?
- crazygringo 9mo agoI don't see that. Ctrl+F and zero "Britain" anywhere on the page. Or even in the HTML source. The only big red letters are "THAT NEEDS YOU".
- wumms 9mo agoI see them on the leaderboard, but not on the main page. https://www.ismypubfucked.com/leaderboard https://www.ismypubfucked.com/leaderboard
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- bodge5000 9mo agoThere are plenty of US sites that make no mention of being US specific, I feel like this is well deserved
- skinnymuch 9mo agoThe US is the center of the world though. There are privileges to that like assuming the world revolves around you.
- noir_lord 9mo agoFor now at least, empires fall, so do superpowers. There is a reason the prime meridian goes through Greenwich and it isn’t because we asked nicely.
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- tracker1 9mo agoWhile this is cool to see, would be nice to see some indication of the nation specific context for those outside that nation... especially since it's the more generic .com tld instead of say .uk ... Maybe even a Union Jack in the corner as a background image, or something.
- ikr678 9mo agoGiven the arguments I have had with people on here about swearing and formal language and all the self censoring they seem to do, I thought it was immediately obvious from the URL that this was not american.
- pavo-etc 9mo agoI'll do this on my projects when US sites start doing this on theirs
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- iso1631 9mo agoNearest pub 2023 Rateable Value £13,800 2026 Rateable Value £12,250 Change -£3,300(-23.9%) I guess "no" would be the answer then. Nearest town has 3 pubs where rates are going down significantly and 4 where they're going up. I wonder why, is it that the previous setup was unfair to those who are seeing their rates going down? The pub I do go to each week is seeing rates going up +£3,300. That's not as big an impact from yet another inflation busting minimum wage increase. However the much bigger concern is that people will be scared to drive there. Currently you can drive there, have a pint, and then go home, and be confident you're not triggering the limit. They're reducing this limit, which means no more trip to the pub. I'm sure it's fine in big cities where people live in walking distance.
- jdlyga 9mo agoUK only
- leapingdog 9mo agoEngland & Wales only. The website is a response to new business rates (taxes) arriving this year. Scotland, Northern Ireland & the rest of the world play by different rules.
- lacoolj 9mo agoAm I the only one that has no idea what this is talking about? Even the "About" section just dumps a ton of jargon about something being a problem for "pubs" - which, very unclear from the homepage, is actually talking about bars/places to drink beer/etc in the UK. But again, now I know it's talking about that kind of pub, what is the actual issue? Some sort of rate being added to something? What rate? Is this related to a rating system? Taxes? Is it affecting the consumer? The owner? So confused.
- crazygringo 9mo agoNope, I have utterly no idea what "rate increases" are being referred to. Doesn't seem to have a single explanation or link anywhere that I can find.
- rzzzt 9mo agoA form of property tax it looks like, charged on businesses: https://www.gov.uk/introduction-to-business-rates https://www.gov.uk/introduction-to-business-rates
- alexfoo 9mo agoTo be fair, I'd say that most people in the UK who would be interested in the contents of this site are aware of the context and know what phrases like "rates increases" actually mean. It's been in the news quite a bit over the years since the pandemic. Not every site has to provide an ELI5.
- crazygringo 9mo agoThe homepage doesn't even say it's about the UK. For a generic ".com" domain that isn't American, it's generally a good idea to yes, have a kind of minimal hint that tells you at least which country it's about, and at least a single link you can follow to get the broader context. I'm following a link to it on HN. When I get there, I have zero context. Visitors to your site can come from anywhere, so it's generally considered a good idea to provide basic context.
- DiabloD3 9mo agoMan, it's weird being an American sometimes. I do not drink. I am half Irish and half German. Drinking is a _very_ weird cultural artifact from our past. It doesn't improve your life, it has been scientifically proven to not 'help you relax', and there may in fact be no safe amount of alcohol to drink; all the pop-sci headlines that say 'one glass of wine a week may improve your health' are really about studies that put the safe max at one glass per week. From what I can tell, the UK is no longer subsidizing what is effectively a criminal enterprise that is centuries old.
- danielfoster 9mo agoWith all due respect this opinion verges on neo prohibitionist alarmism. The social benefits of alcohol have been widely acknowledged and at a time when we are all spending too much time at home on our phones (arguably worse for health than a pint), communities need more social spaces. That place may not necessarily be a bar and it’s perfectly fine if you don’t wish to drink, but it’s a bit much to refer to a cultural product as a criminal enterprise.
- DiabloD3 9mo agoMany people have written what you have written, trying to justify their life choices to strangers on the internet. None of them have ever explained why alcohol, or any drug use, needs to be part of third spaces. Society is losing third spaces, largely due to unchecked capitalism eroding the society it serves... but 'pubs' are just another form of rent-seeking by landlords. It has been proven without a doubt that third spaces as a commercial venture is ultimately non-functional, yet that is what pubs and bars have always been, and now they are dying out.
- danielfoster 9mo agoAgain, with all due respect, I’m not seeing how my comment is pushing a “life choice” on anyone, and the movement to restrict alcohol consumption equally qualifies as pushing a life choice on someone. Commercial pubs have existed for hundreds of year. But drinking doesn’t have to be commercial. In Berlin where I live there’s a non-profit hacker space that has a bar with at-cost drinks. It’s also perfectly legal to buy a beer and sit in the park. And of course, nothing is better than having friends over for a wine tasting.
- NooneAtAll3 9mo agoKinda wish there was some way to quickly scroll through the pages... Also data seems to be different when ordered by different values? When ordered by RV£ there are 43703 entries with data. Most negative RV£ change is -£137,500 for 33 Main Road When ordered by RV% there are 43303 entries with data. Most negative RV% change is -87.0% for PAVILLION HOTEL
- zamadatix 9mo agoSeems fixed now. I wonder if it was related to the number of entries with nulls in one of those two fields (but not necessarily both at the same time).
- sleepybrett 9mo agoFor a dumb american, what is a 'pub rate'?
- leapingdog 9mo agoA tax based on property value. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgjwgzwe2eyo https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgjwgzwe2eyo
- antonymoose 9mo agoI would love to know why it is unrealized gains is such a popular property tax strategy.
- tom_ 9mo agoRates are based (at least in principle) on the rental value of the building, making the gain concept irrelevant. The rent would be the same.
- hdgvhicv 9mo agoI’d love to know why people are happy with others making a fortune not through hard work, but through buying land and letting others hard work increase its value.
- antonymoose 9mo agoIn the case of these pubs it sounds like they’re being priced out of the area through no fault of their own while trying to run an honest business so I don’t quite follow your logic here…
- bodge5000 9mo agosomehow my local, which is pretty dodgy, is doing fine. I need to driving distance to find one thats fucked, and Im not even in a well funded area
- philo23 9mo agoKinda meta, but this is the first time in a long time where I've put only the first half of my postcode in expecting it not to work and been surprised. Most of these "find your nearest XYZ" site require the full postcode which is just unnecessary unless you're looking for a fairly precise location. A full postcode can narrow your location down to an individual street, so its nice not to give too much away if you can. For anyone not in the know, UK postcodes are made up of two parts: a general area (the outward code) and then a more specific one (the inward code.) Generally speaking a postcode + house number will be good enough to get a letter delivered to the right place, though the sorting office might not be too happy with you... The format [0] is roughly: AB12 3CD, though the number of letters/numbers on the left side can vary a bit. As far as I know the second set of numbers is always 1 digit though, so that's how you can easily split the two sides of it to format it nicely. There's a couple of special ones that break the rules though. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postcodes_in_the_United_Kingdom#Structure,_Formatting_and_Validation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postcodes_in_the_United_Kingdo...
- alexpotato 9mo agoI lived in SW1 many years ago and was surprised to learn, from this website, that SW goes all the way out to SW19!
- alexfoo 9mo agoAnd a bit further to SW20 in Raynes Park (a.k.a. “West Wimbledon” in Estate Agent vernacular). I’ve lived somewhere in SW18/SW15/SW19 for the last 30 years. Having not grown up in London I can’t imagine living anywhere else. Apparently many other bits of London (North, East, central, etc) are good too but I’m not ready for change.
- walthamstow 9mo agoFun fact: apart from the main office SW1 they're alphabetised by area, from SW2 Brixton to SW19 Wimbledon. All of the London postcode areas are like this.
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- cellu 9mo agoI mean alcohol is the worst drug: it’s highly addictive, toxic to the body, one of the few drugs with potentially fatal withdrawal, and a major driver of violence, accidents, and family breakdown. Unlike most drugs, it seriously harms people beyond the user — and because it’s legal, cheap, and socially normalised, its damage happens on a massive scale. Sooooo yes happy with pubs closures.
- georgebcrawford 9mo agoI agree until your last sentence. Pubs closing can be devastating. Pubs are often the centre of a community, especially small ones. Not even small towns. Traditionally they have been centered around drinking, but this is changing. Much like libraries had to adapt to falling reading rates, pubs have had to adapt to falling alcohol consumption. The hard part of this is that food and wage costs are often covered by alcohol costs, though where I'm from the government has exercised vice taxes to make this less tenable. More customers doesn't necessarily mean that much more profit, for a host of reasons. I hope pubs find a way forward. Source for my rambling: worked in and managed pubs for a decade. They're not just for heavy drinkers.
- j45 9mo agoIt's important to separate the spirit of this from the spirits of it. Pubs as social gathering places are critical to exist and keep alive. Drinking neurotoxins that have a lot of destruction and damage, maybe not so much. In the UK pubs are extremely different as well than the US. This site is for the UK, since it's asking for a postal code, among other signs. The UK also I believe has last call at 11 PM, which helps fuel the binge drinking before 11 PM and the wild public afterwards. In North America, last call for alcohol can be 1-3 AM, and people generally aren't in a rush to fuel up to blast off.
- antonymoose 9mo agoFunny enough I worked with an old timer back in Charleston, SC which historically had no regulated last call. During his drinking years they passed a law requiring an 0200 closing time which, as he put it, was a terrible idea because it put all the drunks out on the street at the same time causing joint chaos. In his view having no official close meant folks naturally filtered out over time as they were sated. Seems any hard stop causes trouble?
- alexfoo 9mo agoSometimes you have to try stuff to find out the unintended consequences. Not everything can be analysed/foreseen/predicted. Hopefully they were able to see the negative effect, realise the mistake and reverse the decision.
- j45 9mo agoStopping serving at one hour didn’t have to mean closing at the same time.
- s1mplicissimus 9mo agoHow do you imagine this playing out? People don't get the alcohol they want anymore -> no more orders -> No more business -> Not worth it for the owner
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- wumms 9mo agoTitle could use (in Britain)
- quitit 9mo agoI didn't expect this website would double as an intelligence test.
- tannyo 9mo agoCool! Would be nice to include all world postal codes and addresses.
- largbae 9mo agoThe Farmer's Dog pub is listed as fucked, maybe this site could get a shout-out on Clarkson's Farm. The difficulty of doing business in the UK is a common theme on his show.
- hdgvhicv 9mo agoGive tax breaks to tv personalities who buy farms as tax dodges and it has to be paid for by someone else.
- jimnotgym 9mo agoOne striking feature in the UK is the number of pubs that 'went on fire'. The business is no longer viable, planning constraints (and often listed building constraints, which is protection for historical buildings, many pubs are very old) won't let them do anything else with the building so they sit empty until they spontaneously combust. Soon after they get demolished and regrow as a supermarket or apartments.
- Aromasin 9mo agoWorth noting the circle of "pubs that light on fire" and "flat roofed 1970s slum pub" almost entirely overlap. Nobodies setting fire to their thatched-roof pub from 1650 because of pub rates. They just change hands through the breweries every 3-4 years now. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat-roofed_pub https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat-roofed_pub
- hdgvhicv 9mo agohttps://news.sky.com/story/police-now-treating-fire-at-historic-pub-the-crooked-house-as-arson-12936122 https://news.sky.com/story/police-now-treating-fire-at-histo... More profitable to convert the pub into a house and sell it that to actually run a pub.
- jimnotgym 9mo agoNot quite that old, but plenty of historic pubs have gone on fire https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq87x44ey9po https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq87x44ey9po
- pjc50 9mo agoThis is the hidden tragedy of the "listed building" process. It's actually a sizeable burden on a property, because suddenly there's all these compliance requirements on how you do repairs and upkeep. _Not_ doing repairs and upkeep is free. Arson is very difficult to prove. So the listing process preserves a building exactly as it is, sometimes for decades past its usefulness, until it collapses or burns down.
- SideburnsOfDoom 9mo agoIt shows three pubs very near me. Two of those actually closed several years ago. The third is listed under an old name, it changed hands and changed names years ago. it is rated: "The (FPI) score of 22 means this pub is classified as “Feeling It”"
- p0w3n3d 9mo agoDisclaimer - I don't drink at all. Still, when visiting London, I found going to Pubs (for the food mostly) a magical experience. When you enter such place, see that it's so so old, almost like a relic, like a monument, you really appreciate the place. My business trips led me to London centre so I saw the oldest ones.
- SCdF 9mo agoIronically, the pub it suggested near me that was the most fucked closed down years ago (it's not just them, quite a few databases don't know that), so yeah, good call.
- iNerdier 9mo agoSame here, at least three nearby no longer exist and are now flats already. I guess prepare for an acceleration of the same.
- cjrp 9mo agoIt's interesting, I was hoping it would be based on more than just the rates change though. Maybe combined with Google "how busy is this place" data, for example.
- roryirvine 9mo agoAgreed. Currently it reckons that the most-fucked pub in my area is the largest pub within walking distance from a major premier league football stadium. But it's always busy even out of season, and absolutely heaving on match days. I'd be surprised if a single match day's profits weren't sufficient to cover the additional tax for the year. Personally, I'll continue to offer my enthusiastic support to my much smaller, friendlier local even though it's facing only a tiny tax increase by comparison.
- GJim 9mo agoWhilst you make a good point, the true purpose of this site it to draw attention to the new outrageous tax bills faced by pubs; many of which are going under and are a real loss to the communities they serve.
- ioma8 9mo agoDoesnt work in Europe.
- addandsubtract 9mo agoIt's a UK issue / website. Should've been made more clear and used a .co.uk domain, imo.
- NicuCalcea 9mo agoNobody tells US-only websites to use a .us domain.
- GJim 9mo agoI'll tell my ISP to use a .net shall I?
- a3w 9mo agoWhat is a pub? A place to drink in UK? What is a pub rate?
- 6LLvveMx2koXfwn 9mo agoAccess to this site has been blocked by the Protective DNS Service of the UK National Cyber Security Centre via CloudFlare
- dust-jacket 9mo agonice concept, but my 'nearest' was miles away and not really a pub. Hmm.