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That only works if they aren't U.S citizens... Which if they're working for the gov means they are. This administration is creative they will find other more 'l
by mikeweiss 9mo ago
That only works if they aren't U.S citizens... Which if they're working for the gov means they are. This administration is creative they will find other more 'legal' ways for retribution so the punishment sticks.
- joering2 9mo agoWhat difference does it make whether they are US citizens or not? At least DHS is not interested in finding out. And there has been plenty US citizens deported under DHS. https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118180/documents/HMKP-119-JU00-20250430-SD003.pdf https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118180/documents/... https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-citizens-arrested-detained-against-will https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-...
- andsoitis 9mo ago> And there has been plenty US citizens deported under DHS. Are you sure? Do you mind linking to information / reporting about that? I have not seen any.
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- throwaway38294 9mo agoHow about starting on the wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths,_detentions_and_deportations_of_American_citizens_in_the_second_Trump_administration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths,_detentions_and_deporta... Then you can read the congressional report: https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118180/documents/HMKP-119-JU00-20250430-SD003.pdf https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118180/documents/... At this point this is not an accident it's an intentional policy to spread fear and suppress dissent
- joering2 9mo agoSure, since you haven't heard of Wikipedia, or internet in general. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths,_detentions_and_deportations_of_American_citizens_in_the_second_Trump_administration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths,_detentions_and_deporta...
- prh8 9mo agoIt's easy to not see anything if you willingly close your eyes
- srean 9mo agoOr what Upton Sinclair said.
- cultofmetatron 9mo ago> That only works if they aren't U.S citizens Ice has already summarily executed two US citizens. one literally on camera and broadcasted to the world.
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- JumpCrisscross 9mo agoThere isn’t even a pedantic difference between uniformed murder endorsed by the political class and summary execution.
- megabless123 9mo agoNot in practice
- blhack 9mo agoI think you're talking about Renee Good - who is the other person?
- toomanyrichies 9mo agoHis name was Keith Porter. [1] Relatedly, here's a fuller list of recent shootings by immigration agents. [2] 1. https://www.foxla.com/news/ice-shooting-keith-porter-northridge https://www.foxla.com/news/ice-shooting-keith-porter-northri... 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shootings_by_U.S._immigration_agents_in_the_second_Trump_administration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shootings_by_U.S._immi...
- KaiserPro 9mo agoI'm not quite sure why this is being voted down. But as an outsider, its really not normal for agents of the state to detain people without legal basis. much less deliberatly make sure they can't be found. (citizen or not.) You as a US citizen are not required to carry ID, so being arrested on the spot for not having proof of citizenship is grossly authoritarian. Not to mention shooting someone in the street.
- srean 9mo agoICE is now close to being Trump's private police, funded by tax payer's money and beyond accountability.
- jimt1234 9mo agoClose? That's been the case since ICE started rocking face masks and getting deployed only to "blue" cities.
- srean 9mo agoIt seems our down-voters disagree. Quite an interesting phenomena though, how affiliations color some unarguable facts. Many clearly believe that ICE agents are doing the right thing, they got what they voted for.
- lawn 9mo agoDon't be so gullible. There are quite a few examples where they did detain US citizens, even claiming that the papers they had weren't good enough. The president has also multiple times said that he will strip people of citizenship. Yes, it's not exactly legal but they're doing illegal shit all the time and nobody's stopping them.
- lokar 9mo agoThere are many documented cases of them detaining natural born US citizens for close to a month.
- rozab 9mo agoICE just summarily executed a US citizen in the street with the full support of the administration.
- toss1 9mo agoNonsense. You are seriously mistaken if you think mere legality will stop them. This regime has already illegally stopped, assaulted, arested, jailed, and/or deported multiple US citizens. They now stop people and demand they show citizenship papers, and the AsstDirFBI has said people must carry proof of citizenship at all times, and if not, ICE are free to abuse you under the presumption you are an illegal. We are already under a "May I see your papers, please?" Nazi-like system. Except without the superficial politeness of the "May..." and "...Please" and seeing the face of your accusers who hide behind masks.
- rambojohnson 9mo agooh how naive you are... do you not watch the news / go outside?
- gvedem 9mo agoThis would only be true if ICE cared to obey the law, which they do not. They are not observing even the most basic facsimile of due process or probable cause. Protesting them is being treated as grounds for brutalization or arrest. They are actively flaunting their contempt for the Constitution while "conservatives" cheer from the sidelines.
- anon84873628 9mo agoInstead of calling them "conservatives" we should be calling them reactionaries. They want to erase the progress of the 20th century.
- ryandrake 9mo agoPractically, what is stopping them from black-bagging and deporting citizens? Congress? The courts?
- TitaRusell 9mo agoThat's just it. In theory Congress watches the watchers. But half of Congress sucks Trump's cock and the other half is literally denied the right to do their job.
- sneak 9mo agoNah, ICE is snatching and robbing US citizens too, even when they have ID on them. My (US citizen) friend got taken last month and driven hundreds of miles to another state simply for speaking spanish in public.
- mikeweiss 9mo agoThis clearly struck a nerve. What I was trying to say is I doubt they will use ICE for retribution here... My bet is they will use the FBI and simply arrest the sources. I'm aware ICE has detained U.S citizens and also killed citizens on the street.