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Do the actually do this, or do they just say they do this? If they do it, why don’t they preemptively block it instead? I know they don’t have anywhere near th

by wat10000 10mo ago

Do the actually do this, or do they just say they do this? If they do it, why don’t they preemptively block it instead? I know they don’t have anywhere near the manpower to find this stuff manually so it would have to be automated. If it’s automated then they could detect it as it’s happening and prevent it from being made in the first place.

user34283 10mo ago
Who says they don't? It is my understanding that in response to this issue, X has tightened content moderation for their image generation features.
- dathinab 10mo ago
  maybe much later they did initially they outright said, there is no problem and Musk went further saying it's free speech and implying if you try do anything against it you are fascist and you could check the Grok "~feed" and get tons over tons of examples of them _not_ doing anything. And if that changed, then it did very recently. I mean the UK is not the only country where the topic of regulating X to to them failing to self regulate and outright intentionally ignoring local laws was opened up. And as much as Musk might say he don't care and it's implied that the US will retaliate against any country which enforces actions against X for not complying with their law when doing business in their country, it still is a huge headache for X (company) and it's not like people in the US are supper happy about that either.
like_any_other 10mo ago
"Automated" can mean banned/escalated to human review after 20 users report it.
dathinab 10mo ago
> Do the actually do this, or do they just say they do this? they do it within limits - you trick it into generating actual naked people (instead of bikini pictures or sexualized poses etc.) - it blows up (bad press, a lot of abuse reports) which means effectively for most of this pictures there are no consequences heck Elon has personally argued they fall under free speech and nothing need to be changed.... (but in EU, UK, and large parts of the world they don't. Also in a round about way free speech probably doesn't apply to it in the US either: because speech needs a speaker which is a person (natural or legal) and AI doesn't count as a person (and hence can by itself not hold copyright either)).

user34283 10mo ago

Who says they don't? It is my understanding that in response to this issue, X has tightened content moderation for their image generation features.

dathinab 10mo ago
maybe much later they did initially they outright said, there is no problem and Musk went further saying it's free speech and implying if you try do anything against it you are fascist and you could check the Grok "~feed" and get tons over tons of examples of them _not_ doing anything. And if that changed, then it did very recently. I mean the UK is not the only country where the topic of regulating X to to them failing to self regulate and outright intentionally ignoring local laws was opened up. And as much as Musk might say he don't care and it's implied that the US will retaliate against any country which enforces actions against X for not complying with their law when doing business in their country, it still is a huge headache for X (company) and it's not like people in the US are supper happy about that either.

like_any_other 10mo ago

"Automated" can mean banned/escalated to human review after 20 users report it.

dathinab 10mo ago

> Do the actually do this, or do they just say they do this? they do it within limits - you trick it into generating actual naked people (instead of bikini pictures or sexualized poses etc.) - it blows up (bad press, a lot of abuse reports) which means effectively for most of this pictures there are no consequences heck Elon has personally argued they fall under free speech and nothing need to be changed.... (but in EU, UK, and large parts of the world they don't. Also in a round about way free speech probably doesn't apply to it in the US either: because speech needs a speaker which is a person (natural or legal) and AI doesn't count as a person (and hence can by itself not hold copyright either)).