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UK Officials could face US entry ban over Twitter policy
- Havoc 9mo agoMaybe the US could do something about their CSAM-as-a-service companies instead?
- user34283 9mo ago[flagged]
- GJim 9mo ago> It takes a special kind of thinking to believe major US companies at any point intentionally permitted CSAM Of FFS. What a ridiculous and twisted thing to say. Try replacing "intentionally permit" with "massively facilitate". Xitter is a sewer.
- user34283 9mo agoI'm not sure what is "ridiculous and twisted" when I point out that obviously X does not facilitate CSAM "as a service". No, X is not a sewer. It's a perfectly usable platform that I find pushes less political content to my feed than other alternatives, such as Reddit. They also offer AI services with less guardrails than more risk adverse competitors. It appears this may have been a mistake in combination with image editing capabilities.
- like_any_other 9mo agoFor the confused reader, "CSAM-as-a-service" means they will ban your account and sic the cops on you if you use their service to create CSAM: “We take action against illegal content on X, including Child Sexual Abuse Material (CSAM), by removing it, permanently suspending accounts, and working with local governments and law enforcement as necessary,” X Safety said. “Anyone using or prompting Grok to make illegal content will suffer the same consequences as if they upload illegal content.” https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/01/x-blames-users-for-grok-generated-csam-no-fixes-announced/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/01/x-blames-users-f...
- blitzar 9mo ago[flagged]
- GJim 9mo agoYou really need to look at what is happening closer to home before engaging in such trolling. EDIT: Look what is happening to those in authority who speak out and disagree with the US president.
- blitzar 9mo agoI am a free speech absolutist
- pixl97 9mo ago>free speech absolutist Did blitzar ever get remarried after he murdered his wife and embezzled 10 million dollars?
- blitzar 9mo agoThey are in the Epstein files
- estearum 9mo agoDoes that include a private corporation's freedom to ban anti-vaxxers, election deniers, or race baiters from their platforms?
- hopelite 9mo agoWhy do you know about CSAM-as-a-service companies? How could something like that even exist without it being a government operation like Epstein Island?
- miohtama 9mo agoThere is no CSAM. Musk confirmed it and Starmer confirmed Grok is acting compliant. https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2011434416837361794?s=20 https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/2011434416837361794?s=20
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- wat10000 9mo agoMusk can’t be trusted and Starmer just says he was told that.
- immibis 9mo agoIs this finally a severe enough escalation for the UK to stop using the US dollar as a reserve currency?
- OgsyedIE 9mo agoThe UK is extremely dependent on American LNG to serve as a vital component of the UK's home heating infrastructure. The UK would have significant affordability problems with making up the difference from other gas exporting countries and would likely just have rationing and rolling outages instead.
- arethuza 9mo ago"Extremely dependent" seems to be overstating things a bit - 11% of imported gas comes from the US with is about a fifth of what we import from Norway and a third of domestic production? https://www.sunsave.energy/blog/uk-gas-sources https://www.sunsave.energy/blog/uk-gas-sources
- throw0101d 9mo ago>> The UK is extremely dependent on American LNG to […] > "Extremely dependent" seems to be overstating things a bit - 11% of imported gas comes from the US with is about a fifth of what we import from Norway and a third of domestic production? If the GP wants to hold to his logic, then the US would be "extremely dependent" on Canada, given that 25% of all crude oil refined in the US comes from their northern neighbour: * https://www.afpm.org/newsroom/blog/how-much-oil-does-united-states-import-and-why https://www.afpm.org/newsroom/blog/how-much-oil-does-united-...
- einichi 9mo agoThat does not make the distinction between pipeline gas and LNG, but I do not know if that is a distinction worth making
- arethuza 9mo ago
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- like_any_other 9mo ago[flagged]
- herewulf 9mo agohttps://archive.is/smrsh https://archive.is/smrsh
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- r_p4rk 9mo agoWhat are we doing here bud? Do you think these situations are remotely comparable? The UK legislated against the automated creation of CSAM, and sexual imagery of non-consenting women. You think banning UK officials from entering the USA for that is comparable to stopping a blatant racist (author of "The Great Replacement", rofl) entering the UK? Notably, not a French official btw. Maybe you have problems with the UK exercising the right to control borders? :)
- Steve16384 9mo agoSo no country should ever ban someone from entering.... unless they're an immigrant of course!
- like_any_other 9mo agoI'm not saying they shouldn't. I'm saying they're getting exactly what they're dishing out, and even for the same reason (disagreement over how much free speech should be allowed).
- gadders 9mo ago[flagged]
- Neil44 9mo agoThe obvious issue is that there's potential for any of the AI models to be tricked into producing dodgy content, so if you ban Grok for this you're then obligated to act against the rest too. I'm 100% sure I'm not the first person to realize this, between the various agitators here. Personally I think that de-anonymizing so that existing laws against the content produced can be prosecuted is the way forwards.
- pjc50 9mo agoDoesn't help if it's people outside the UK using it to make deepfakes of UK nationals.
- pu_pe 9mo agoThe other major AI providers do not have a social media platform attached to it. I also doubt that the guardrails in Gemini or OpenAI are as lax as the ones on Grok. The debate is whether to ban X, not Grok though.
- hopelite 9mo agoYou are trying to use reason and rationality to make sense of lying and narcissism. You are correct, you are not the first person to think of that, but the objective is to find, hunt, attack, assault, damage, destroy, and root out places where the human right of free speech/expression may exist. The last thing you want to do is play right into the hand of psychopathic narcissists by "de-anonymizing" everyone. You simply do not understand what you are proposing and thereby condemning your children and all of humanity to with that mentality. It is advocacy for tyranny.
- perihelions 9mo agoThe US banned Thierry Breton a few weeks ago[0], also essentially over Twitter moderation[1]. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46374248 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46374248 ("Former EU commissioner and activists barred from US (theguardian.com)") [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-twitter-moderation-eu-dsa-thierry-breton-2022-4 https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-twitter-moderation... ("EU warns Elon Musk that being too lax on Twitter moderation could get the platform banned in Europe" (2022))
- TRiG_Ireland 9mo agoIs Titter a US company, or is the US government working for Twitter?
- arethuza 9mo agoPlease tell me that first typo was intentional...
- TRiG_Ireland 9mo agoI must admit that it was not.
- miohtama 9mo agoThierry also wrote a letter as an EU officer to cancel Trump's interview https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-elon-musk-donald-trump-interview-thierry-breton-letter-social-media/ https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-elon-musk-donald-trump-in...
- pjc50 9mo agoThe retaliation against individual government members is a new thing. This got started against Russia, where various individuals were sanctioned for financial crimes and then more recently over the war in Ukraine. But it's not something that historically one government has done to another in the past, pressure individual lawmakers over their votes. It is however a massive alarm that the UK cannot afford to use US cloud services for anything governmental, and especially should not be signing any contracts with Palantir. Perhaps revoking the Palantir one should be used as leverage here? Or do we just admit to being a sort of damp version of Puerto Rico, not a state but subject to US governance? Then there's the F35s, the ""independent"" (not) nuclear deterrent, and so on.
- arethuza 9mo ago""independent"" (not) nuclear deterrent" We really are in a weird state of dependency with the US regarding deterrence - missiles sourced from US stocks, UK nuclear material built into warheads using a US design. I wonder if there is a block in the missiles to stop them being used against the US? Edit: I don't think there is any dependency on the US once a UK Trident sub is at sea - for the simple reason there no external dependencies (no codes or anything) - the crews have all they need to launch.
- ben_w 9mo ago> I wonder if there is a block in the missiles to stop them being used against the US? When test firing gets into the news, it's because it has the opposite problem and goes towards the US.
- rich_sasha 9mo agoI have wondered about this. Would we know there aren't any radio receivers that might pick up a signal from satellites saying, nuh-uh, not this way?
- GJim 9mo ago> The retaliation against individual government members is a new thing It's Donald Trumps SOP.
- secretsatan 9mo agoI'm confused, I thought the US would refuse entry to anyone who wrote something against the Trump admin? I wish they'd make up their minds if they're for free speech or not.
- bettysdiagnose 9mo ago[dead]
- SanjayMehta 9mo agoRules based disorder: "I do dis, you no do dis." In one word: hypocrisy.
- hopelite 9mo agoAre you really confused though or are you feigning? The US Constitution applies to American citizens, if you are not a US citizen, you do not have the rights protected by the Constitution, which prohibit the government from infringing on those inalienable, God given rights. Maybe you should look into copying the Constitution where you are if you also want it. We encourage it. It's like when you are a member of some club, let's say a wholesale club. If you are a member, you are allowed to enter and follow the rules of the club. If you are not a member, you do not get to do that and must leave. You are free to create your own wholesale club with your own rules, but conflict arises when you demand or even force entry into our club illegally. That is where we have been for many decades now and security is enforcing the rules because the members of the club that have been paying are getting extremely pissed off after having had to pay for freeloaders for decades now and be abused and disrespected by them for it on top of it. It's not hard to understand, it just seems most people are intentionally and deceptively feigning ignorance. If they are not, we have a way bigger problem that will invariably result in open conflict at some point. If you want to free speech, I suggest you start your own free speech club wherever you are, or if you gain entry to our free speech club, you have to follow the membership rules and if it were up to me, you would have a trial period, restricted rights, and you would have to pay a freeloader rate. These are all very reasonable things to abide by in order to keep peace, but we are now all having to learn the hard lessons of what happens when you allow bad behavior to get away with things, and you do not enforce clearly defined rules against those who even blatantly defy them and disrespect you and what you have created, and even do so in your own home. It didn't need to be like this, but it seems most humans are incapable of simply letting well enough be. It seems one of the most universal human characteristics. It applies from the personal to the government to the ideological/psychological level and it is the origin of all human conflict; you have something someone else wants and they'll end up stewing over it until they try to take it from you by hook or crook if you allow them to. The peace comes from keeping a balance. There has been no balance for as long as anyone is old and then some.
- ekjhgkejhgk 9mo agoFascism.
- blitzar 9mo ago@grok put them in a bikini
- zombot 9mo agoI think we can take it as official that the goons are not only domestic terrorists but international terrorists as well. The US has become a terrorist state.