> i don't think that's an unfair implication. we will have to disagree there. which is fine. > if you start defining it as broadly as you want to you could pr

> i don't think that's an unfair implication. we will have to disagree there. which is fine. > if you start defining it as broadly as you want to you could probably apply it to just about any job, anywhere in the world. The guy wiring up power poles outside my office does his own thinking, does that make his job creative? Which is my point. I am not saying all programmers to should be called "creative." However, calling a portion of them creative is inaccurate. It also doesn't really get at what OP wanted to get at which is: A programmer with visual arts training/skills.