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As a smoker who transitioned to vaping, I see immense health benefits. My home country (India), and others (Singapore, others?) have outright banned all electr

As a smoker who transitioned to vaping, I see immense health benefits. My home country (India), and others (Singapore, others?) have outright banned all electronic cigarettes which is a regulation I hate. I acknowledge that vapes reduce barriers to entry to kids. This is partly solvable in countries with strong governance. But disposables? Ban that shit

xandrovich 9mo ago
The issue is that when legislation comes in regarding "disposable" vapes - manufacturers skirt around that by making the fluid chamber a removable pod that can be swapped for others, and a USB-C port for charging the device itself. The issue is that to the end user this is still tangibly the same product - and mostly gets treated in much the same way as the original "disposable" vapes.
willtemperley 9mo ago
Have you seen the list of substances found in these things? https://www.unodc.org/LSS/Announcement/Details/8afbc6e8-9439-4ed8-8117-30d80173590a https://www.unodc.org/LSS/Announcement/Details/8afbc6e8-9439...
- willtemperley 9mo ago
  I would dearly love to know why I get downvoted for providing concrete evidence of serious problems with controlled drugs in vapes.
- floro 9mo ago
  You get downvoted because you're implying substances like methamphetamine are common in vapes (as per your linked article), which it obviously is not, and already highly illegal. The truth is you can mix your own vape juice from just PG, VG and nicotine. Which are completely harmless to eat (except nicotine) and used in food products. A more rational discussion would be about if inhaling PG and VG is harmful to the lungs, or the additional unregulated stuff you find in flavoring of vape juice.
  - willtemperley 9mo ago
    Unfortunately the legal vape market acts as a cover for the illegal vape market. Vapes containing cannabinoids and other drugs are sold in shops. I fully support banning these things. It's impossible to regulate effectively without.
  - mordv 9mo ago
    > Which are completely harmless to eat (except nicotine) and used in food products Or we think so unless proven otherwise.
    - willtemperley 9mo ago
      Yep. I definitely don't want to eat antifreeze based ice cream, or smoke antifreeze either.
philipwhiuk 9mo ago
The rechargable vapes just get disposed anyway.

xandrovich 9mo ago

The issue is that when legislation comes in regarding "disposable" vapes - manufacturers skirt around that by making the fluid chamber a removable pod that can be swapped for others, and a USB-C port for charging the device itself. The issue is that to the end user this is still tangibly the same product - and mostly gets treated in much the same way as the original "disposable" vapes.

willtemperley 9mo ago

Have you seen the list of substances found in these things? https://www.unodc.org/LSS/Announcement/Details/8afbc6e8-9439-4ed8-8117-30d80173590a https://www.unodc.org/LSS/Announcement/Details/8afbc6e8-9439...

willtemperley 9mo ago
I would dearly love to know why I get downvoted for providing concrete evidence of serious problems with controlled drugs in vapes.
floro 9mo ago
You get downvoted because you're implying substances like methamphetamine are common in vapes (as per your linked article), which it obviously is not, and already highly illegal. The truth is you can mix your own vape juice from just PG, VG and nicotine. Which are completely harmless to eat (except nicotine) and used in food products. A more rational discussion would be about if inhaling PG and VG is harmful to the lungs, or the additional unregulated stuff you find in flavoring of vape juice.
- willtemperley 9mo ago
  Unfortunately the legal vape market acts as a cover for the illegal vape market. Vapes containing cannabinoids and other drugs are sold in shops. I fully support banning these things. It's impossible to regulate effectively without.
- mordv 9mo ago
  > Which are completely harmless to eat (except nicotine) and used in food products Or we think so unless proven otherwise.
  - willtemperley 9mo ago
    Yep. I definitely don't want to eat antifreeze based ice cream, or smoke antifreeze either.

philipwhiuk 9mo ago

The rechargable vapes just get disposed anyway.