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Death penalty for one guy seems very mild. If this happened in Sweden, we'd have been shooting at the participating soldiers while it went on with machine guns

Death penalty for one guy seems very mild. If this happened in Sweden, we'd have been shooting at the participating soldiers while it went on with machine guns, seeking out people associated with the coup and killing them in their homes etc. If someone is committing a coup, you go 100%, because if they succeed you don't have a country any more. This guy invited this in a democratic, orderly country. What crime is worse? If it were me I'd have wanted the death penalty for any participating soldiers too.

nodesocket 9mo ago
Lol what world do you live in? In Sweden killing political adversaries? I've lived in Sweden winter (Stockholm 2 months) and summer (1 month) and made many friends. None, have talked about killing political coupes like you say. I'm actually pro US gaining controller of Greenland (it would open up enormous economic tailwinds)... Business.. Actual property rights, instead of government owned land with leases. US owning Greenland would be a crazy boom to their economy. I for one, would buy land.
- impossiblefork 9mo ago
  Killing coup-plotters and their associates would happen immediately as soon as anyone began to execute a coup. Lots of people have access to weapons (mostly for hunting, but still) and lots of people have done their mandatory military service and know that coups are illegal. They would certainly fight. My point is that inviting that-- i.e. creating the situation where people have to fight and kill the coup plotters and anyone who sides with them, is a very extreme thing where killing only the plotters themselves is the mildest outcome. This would happen as soon as a government said 'we're blocking the riksdag from meeting'. No one in Sweden from any political party in the Riksdag would ever do that though, it's of course unthinkable.
  - nodesocket 9mo ago
    I don't fully get what you're saying... But if you think a few thousand farmers in Greenland will fend off Delta force soldiers, I suggested you rethink your strategy. 20 Delta force took down hundreds of soldiers in Venezuela (with 0 loss of US soldier life), you think farmers have any chance?
    - _zagj 9mo ago
      I don't see what any of this has to do with Greenland. But his posts describing his fellow countrymen as if some "berserker" spirit lies dormant within, are so credulity-straining that I initially assumed they were ironic, but then I remembered what site I was on (orange reddit), and how irony unqualified by "/s" is swiftly met with downvotes or flags, so he must be serious.
_zagj 9mo ago
> If this happened in Sweden, we'd have been shooting at the participating soldiers while it went on with machine guns, seeking out people associated with the coup and killing them in their homes etc. Yeah, that's exactly the kind of resolve one associates with a nation that rolled over, even to the point of active collaboration, when the Soviets invaded one democratic neighbor and annexed chunks of their territory, and when the Nazis subsequently invaded and occupied the other. The "Captain Sweden" meme exists for a reason.
- impossiblefork 9mo ago
  Except that isn't what happened. Norwegians who fled to Sweden were organized into military forces intended to eventually retake Norway. My own grandfather fled to Sweden after the Nazi occupation of Norway, but was for some reason not part of this (he was sent to university instead). We even warned the Soviet Union of Operation Barbarossa after breaking the Geheimschreiber code.

nodesocket 9mo ago

Lol what world do you live in? In Sweden killing political adversaries? I've lived in Sweden winter (Stockholm 2 months) and summer (1 month) and made many friends. None, have talked about killing political coupes like you say. I'm actually pro US gaining controller of Greenland (it would open up enormous economic tailwinds)... Business.. Actual property rights, instead of government owned land with leases. US owning Greenland would be a crazy boom to their economy. I for one, would buy land.

impossiblefork 9mo ago
Killing coup-plotters and their associates would happen immediately as soon as anyone began to execute a coup. Lots of people have access to weapons (mostly for hunting, but still) and lots of people have done their mandatory military service and know that coups are illegal. They would certainly fight. My point is that inviting that-- i.e. creating the situation where people have to fight and kill the coup plotters and anyone who sides with them, is a very extreme thing where killing only the plotters themselves is the mildest outcome. This would happen as soon as a government said 'we're blocking the riksdag from meeting'. No one in Sweden from any political party in the Riksdag would ever do that though, it's of course unthinkable.
- nodesocket 9mo ago
  I don't fully get what you're saying... But if you think a few thousand farmers in Greenland will fend off Delta force soldiers, I suggested you rethink your strategy. 20 Delta force took down hundreds of soldiers in Venezuela (with 0 loss of US soldier life), you think farmers have any chance?
  - _zagj 9mo ago
    I don't see what any of this has to do with Greenland. But his posts describing his fellow countrymen as if some "berserker" spirit lies dormant within, are so credulity-straining that I initially assumed they were ironic, but then I remembered what site I was on (orange reddit), and how irony unqualified by "/s" is swiftly met with downvotes or flags, so he must be serious.

_zagj 9mo ago

> If this happened in Sweden, we'd have been shooting at the participating soldiers while it went on with machine guns, seeking out people associated with the coup and killing them in their homes etc. Yeah, that's exactly the kind of resolve one associates with a nation that rolled over, even to the point of active collaboration, when the Soviets invaded one democratic neighbor and annexed chunks of their territory, and when the Nazis subsequently invaded and occupied the other. The "Captain Sweden" meme exists for a reason.

impossiblefork 9mo ago
Except that isn't what happened. Norwegians who fled to Sweden were organized into military forces intended to eventually retake Norway. My own grandfather fled to Sweden after the Nazi occupation of Norway, but was for some reason not part of this (he was sent to university instead). We even warned the Soviet Union of Operation Barbarossa after breaking the Geheimschreiber code.