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Guys, consider the source, really... it's one of those rightwing 'newspeak' organizations http://americasvoiceonline.org/research/background_briefing_mark_kriko
by notlisted 14y ago
Guys, consider the source, really... it's one of those rightwing 'newspeak' organizations
http://americasvoiceonline.org/research/background_briefing_mark_krikorian_cis/ http://americasvoiceonline.org/research/background_briefing_...
Secondly, though L1 visas do not have a prevailing wage, they DO look at the wage and if it's much lower the L1 visa is NOT granted. Also note that L1 visas are ONLY granted to people who have already worked with the company for several years and need to have been in a managerial capacity for at least 1 year out of the preceding 3 years.
As @rada indicated, the cost savings aspect alluded to are more often than not the result of lower age ranges and NOT just from wage discrimination.
Also note that if salaries are lower than what one would expect, it's because the prevailing wage number is lower than one might expect, simply because is is defined as the median wage for that position across the STATE, which would explain why prevailing wages are often much lower that what's "prevailing" in metro areas like NYC. (disclosure: IANAL, and I'm not 100% sure this is still the case, but I think it is)
One more thing to realize is that H1B workers and L1 workers PAY TAXES in the USA, BUT have NO rights to unemployment if they lose their job, nor to retirement benefits later in life etc. UNLESS they make it to the 40 points limit. At 3-4 points a year, this will typically take 10+ years and thus makes it near impossible with max. duration of visas, even if you 'stack' L1 and H1B (years on L1 add towards 6 year maximum of H1B). In short: the H1B workers fill the coffers of all non-visa workers without the option to withdraw their contribution in the future, unless they become citizens or marry a US spouse. Note that even if they do 8naturalize or marry, they'll need to get to this 40 point level to obtain retirement benefits. Can't find a link, but have the notifications from the social security administration in my files somewhere.
I'll be honest: I would not wish an H1B job on my worst enemy. I consider it modern-day slavery because you are beholden to your employer. These days it's not as bad as in the early 2000's, where you were forced to leave within 10 days of losing your job, but it's still not an easy or secure life.
Finally, a nice little overview comparing H1B and L1:
http://www.immihelp.com/l1-visa/l1-visa-h1b-visa-comparison.html http://www.immihelp.com/l1-visa/l1-visa-h1b-visa-comparison....
- rada 14y agoI am very confused. My source is a Dice salaries survey, and to refute said source, you link to a website trashing some guy named Mark Krikorian? Did you reply to my comment by mistake? (1) Your link is to America's Voice, a Washington DC-based pro-immigration lobby organization, hardly an objective source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas_Voice_(lobby) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas_Voice_(lobby)
- notlisted 14y agoSorry, I did. Read to the bottom of the page, re-read your post, hit reply. The hardcore pro-immigration site I link to is to indicate that the "non-partisan" CIS is not non-partisan, which would be obvious too if you look at the CIS site which quotes mainly fox news segments. I don't necessarily agree with anything else they state.
- Retric 14y agoThe idea that immigration status is in any way linked to a company over the long term is clearly broken.
- batgaijin 14y agoDo you really expect any Americans to care if they are already handcuffed with their healthcare?
- patmcguire 14y agoI had to look this up, so I thought I would share for anyone else who was confused - the points in this case refer to Social Security's eligibility system. http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10072.html http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10072.html
- notlisted 14y agoThanks so much, I could not find this and was too lazy to pull my old files from the basement.