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to counter 2) ICE is not police. There is nothing differentiating them from armed thugs. No bages, no ID's, no faces etc. There is no reason to do ANYTHING thes
by Grimblewald 9mo ago
to counter 2) ICE is not police. There is nothing differentiating them from armed thugs. No bages, no ID's, no faces etc. There is no reason to do ANYTHING these people ask.
to counter 3) I would say there's a clear chick and egg here. ICE started behaving in a way that is now being met with an equal and opposite reactionary force. If ICE can stop acting like some SS wannabe force, the vigilantism goes away as well. The rules and laws are for everyone, not just some.
- blindriver 9mo ago[flagged]
- cindyllm 9mo ago[dead]
- text0404 9mo ago> ICE is most definitely federal law enforcement Cool, how do I identify them? They don't have badges and refuse to give ID. They cover their faces and use excessive force. Should I just immediately give up my rights and do whatever is asked of me from someone in a vest and ski mask with a gun because they claim to be a government agent? We've seen videos in the past 72 hours showing blatant illegal activity and constitutional violations. You're literally commenting on an article about an ICE agent stealing an underage victim's property. Is this the American Freedom you guys always talk about? "Comply and get in the van with the armed, masked men and maybe you'll make it out alive"?
- majorchord 9mo agoSo your solution for dealing with armed thugs is NOT to comply with their demands?
- willmarch 9mo agoYes, that’s the duty of every red-blooded American
- majorchord 9mo agoYou might be technically right, but there's also possibly a larger chance you'll end up dead if you don't comply, and I think most people are not prepared to make that sacrifice.
- willmarch 9mo agoThey’re eventually going to come for us all whether we resist or not (that’s just the nature of fascism), so it seems like an easy choice to me, but history tends to support your conclusion (though I hope we as a species are capable of learning from the past)
- Grimblewald 9mo agoI'd argue history shows there are always those who keep fighting that make facist regimes impossible in the long term.
- willmarch 9mo agoI believe that theory can be argued convincingly and tend to agree
- Grimblewald 9mo agoDon't comply, maybe live to see freedom. Comply, live to die a captive another day. Complying is like moving from the kitchen to the living room because the kitchen is on fire, then sitting down and pretending life is BAU. You need to either fight the fire or GTFO, but pretending there is no fire will kill you all the same.