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> Why would management even say such a thing and expose themselves to a lawsuit? For years, many organizations wrongly assumed that anti-discrimination laws di
by sanity 9mo ago
> Why would management even say such a thing and expose themselves to a lawsuit?
For years, many organizations wrongly assumed that anti-discrimination laws didn’t protect white men. Recent Supreme Court rulings—especially Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard—have made clear that assumption was false, prompting companies to rapidly rethink or abandon DEI programs.
- rchaud 9mo agowhich organizations were these? Title VII of the Civil Rights Act doesn't carve out any exceptions.
- tbrownaw 9mo agoIt also doesn't allow for the whole affirmative action / disparate impact approach, yet that's how it got applied in practice for quite a while.
- pamcake 9mo agoCool. How many HR departments do you believe had the Civil Rights Act as part of their onboarding in the 80s?
- will4274 9mo agoWell, Harvard for one. They are the one named in the suit. You can also look at the long list of amici briefs and consolidated cases.
- assertion_0xa 9mo agoGoogle is notorious for pulling this and numerous people have come forward pointing it out and the CEO of IBM was on air back in 2021 (?) pointing out that any white men who have a problem with not being promoted can essentially pound sand. This is/was an incredibly common behavior in tech, and anyone who says otherwise is being willfully argumentative or is incredibly isolated.
- lern_too_spel 9mo agoAnecdotally, I have heard the exact opposite. The one thing that is in agreement is that the people promoted in management are uniformly incompetent.
- sanity 9mo agoAny organization with a DEI department, which is most of them. It was pervasive.
- Starman_Jones 9mo agoIn the 80's? In banking? Citation needed.
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- Auracle 9mo agoThe book that's being referenced?
- Starman_Jones 9mo agoThat would be circular reasoning - we know Adams' claim is true because DEI was pervasive in the 80's, and we know DEI was pervasive in the 80's because Scott Adams said so.
- jojobas 9mo agoTaking being passed for promotion all the way to SCOTUS is a big ask. For decades the default position was the law defends non-white/non-men against white men. In most other western countries you still can put out job ads saying basically "white men need not apply".
- rexpop 9mo agoFor much of history, laws in many countries were designed to uphold systems of privilege for white men. Segregation, discrimination, and unequal treatment were institutionalized, limiting legal protections for non-white individuals and women. I mean, the legal discrimination against people of color throughout history has been accompanied by extreme violence and oppression. It's a brutal legacy that cannot be overstated. Slavery and human trafficking, lynching and extrajudicial killings, Jim Crow laws, police brutality, denial of voting rights, economic exploitation, forced relocation and genocide, invasive medical practices, cultural suppression, and educational disparities... when you whinge about "decades" of legal protections for marginalized identities, I just wonder why you think you're making anywhere close to a salient or meaningful contribution to discussions of justice.
- jojobas 9mo agoThe people who effected slavery and what not are long dead. A poor white boy of today or 30 years ago getting penalized in favor of a black lawyer's daughter achieves nothing in terms of justice.
- Larrikin 9mo agoNearly half of my aunts and uncles saw Martin Luther King Jr speak live on TV. Donald Trump was in college when active discrimination by the government became illegal. Do you think that after Jim Crow was dismantled in the 60s, that all of those people who were against it, that you see in the video footage and photos violently protesting it, suddenly disappeared?
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