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This isn't "whistleblowing" and I hope whomever did this spends a long time in prison. Regardless of what your feelings on ICE enforcement are...

phs318u 9mo ago
I kind of agree with you - up until the point that ICE started just shooting people in the face with zero consequences (and please don’t trot out the self-defence BS). Let’s try your comment in 1938 Germany. Replace the word ICE with Gestapo.
- ck2 9mo ago
  also, what on earth does this DHS slogan mean? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/13/trump-administration-ends-tps-somalia https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/13/trump-admini... from a federal government agency heavily armed against unarmed non-violent protestors absolutely terrifying but that's the point I guess?
- CamperBob2 9mo ago
  I hate the Gestapo comparisons because they are disrespectful to the Gestapo. Say what you will about them, at least they showed their faces.
  - dpc050505 9mo ago
    ICE is behaving like slave chasers, which inspired the Gestapo. The state of your country is homegrown yanqui fuckery. Should've finished the job you started in the civil war.
- busterarm 9mo ago
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  - mothballed 9mo ago
    Many people have died in ICE custody as well, several so far this year, so it's not as simple as just placing yourself in their custody and then you are safe.
    - busterarm 9mo ago
      She didn't have to be there in the first place. It's not like she was just unintentionally in the middle of it. She sought out conflict with LEO.
      - tastyface 9mo ago
        If ICE starts dragging your friends and neighbors out of their houses and cars and terrorizing your children at school, maybe you'll understand why she felt she had to be there. Or else, just try applying a bit of empathy.
      - phs318u 9mo ago
        > She didn't have to be there in the first place. In the la-and of the free, and the ho-ome of the brave.
      - fzeroracer 9mo ago
        What about the American citizens having their homes invaded by ICE without even the faintest veneer of legality? Should they not have been at home and sought out conflict? And if you're an honest to god American saying she deserved to be shot and murdered by LEOs because she was in wrong place is the most non-American shit I've heard. It's blatently shitting on our constitutional rights.
  - mcphage 9mo ago
    > I'm sorry that makes you feel a certain way but stupid actions have stupid consequences. I’m sorry this leak makes you feel a certain way, but see the above.
  - quarry_quirk 9mo ago
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- TrnsltLife 9mo ago
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- grimblee 9mo ago
  Did you know the early nazis where actually impressed by america's segregation and racism and lamented they couldn't easily do the same? Well, they kinda did in the end.
tastyface 9mo ago
On the contrary, this is exactly the sort of thing a prototypical hacker would do: give a massive finger to the authorities through the use of technology.
- busterarm 9mo ago
  That's not what a prototypical hacker is at all. I have the benefit of being able to talk to most of the "prototypical hackers", the TMRC crowd, decades ago and being a hacker had nothing to do with sticking it to authorities. It was all about personal ingenuity and generally lacking self-discipline (from an outsider's perspective -- as people didn't refer to themselves as hackers for decades, it started as a derisive term from more "respectable" researchers). The whole freedom-fighting hacker thing came about later, mostly from the 2600 and BBS crowd as a self-aggrandizement despite all of the laws that they were breaking: mainly related to use of telephone lines, wire & mail fraud, drug use/trafficing and age of consent violations. You're literally trying to tell me about my own tribe and you don't have the slightest clue.
  - tastyface 9mo ago
    Dunno about your friends, but I imagine the original, old school MIT hackers -- the ones who lockpicked doors for fun and fought tooth and nail against any restrictions on access to computer systems -- would chuckle at an infodump like this, not clutch their pearls.
  - boston_clone 9mo ago
    it seems as though you’re reaching extraordinarily far back in time to apply a definition that simply doesn’t exist anymore. hell, the time period you’re referencing (…80 years ago!) is when “gay” still meant “happy”. obviously, you’re free to use whatever words you like, but your clinging to outdated terminology and being perpetually misunderstood is not a failure of other people.
    - busterarm 9mo ago
      It was the parent poster that reached for the idea of "prototypical hacker", but then missed the mark by several decades. Words have meaning. Also my usage very much matches early "computer hackers" in a cultural sense. If I was just going off of the word origin itself we'd be talking about horse and carriage drivers...

phs318u 9mo ago

I kind of agree with you - up until the point that ICE started just shooting people in the face with zero consequences (and please don’t trot out the self-defence BS). Let’s try your comment in 1938 Germany. Replace the word ICE with Gestapo.

ck2 9mo ago
also, what on earth does this DHS slogan mean? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/13/trump-administration-ends-tps-somalia https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/13/trump-admini... from a federal government agency heavily armed against unarmed non-violent protestors absolutely terrifying but that's the point I guess?
CamperBob2 9mo ago
I hate the Gestapo comparisons because they are disrespectful to the Gestapo. Say what you will about them, at least they showed their faces.
- dpc050505 9mo ago
  ICE is behaving like slave chasers, which inspired the Gestapo. The state of your country is homegrown yanqui fuckery. Should've finished the job you started in the civil war.
busterarm 9mo ago
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- mothballed 9mo ago
  Many people have died in ICE custody as well, several so far this year, so it's not as simple as just placing yourself in their custody and then you are safe.
  - busterarm 9mo ago
    She didn't have to be there in the first place. It's not like she was just unintentionally in the middle of it. She sought out conflict with LEO.
    - tastyface 9mo ago
      If ICE starts dragging your friends and neighbors out of their houses and cars and terrorizing your children at school, maybe you'll understand why she felt she had to be there. Or else, just try applying a bit of empathy.
    - phs318u 9mo ago
      > She didn't have to be there in the first place. In the la-and of the free, and the ho-ome of the brave.
    - fzeroracer 9mo ago
      What about the American citizens having their homes invaded by ICE without even the faintest veneer of legality? Should they not have been at home and sought out conflict? And if you're an honest to god American saying she deserved to be shot and murdered by LEOs because she was in wrong place is the most non-American shit I've heard. It's blatently shitting on our constitutional rights.
- mcphage 9mo ago
  > I'm sorry that makes you feel a certain way but stupid actions have stupid consequences. I’m sorry this leak makes you feel a certain way, but see the above.
- quarry_quirk 9mo ago
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TrnsltLife 9mo ago
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grimblee 9mo ago
Did you know the early nazis where actually impressed by america's segregation and racism and lamented they couldn't easily do the same? Well, they kinda did in the end.

tastyface 9mo ago

On the contrary, this is exactly the sort of thing a prototypical hacker would do: give a massive finger to the authorities through the use of technology.

busterarm 9mo ago
That's not what a prototypical hacker is at all. I have the benefit of being able to talk to most of the "prototypical hackers", the TMRC crowd, decades ago and being a hacker had nothing to do with sticking it to authorities. It was all about personal ingenuity and generally lacking self-discipline (from an outsider's perspective -- as people didn't refer to themselves as hackers for decades, it started as a derisive term from more "respectable" researchers). The whole freedom-fighting hacker thing came about later, mostly from the 2600 and BBS crowd as a self-aggrandizement despite all of the laws that they were breaking: mainly related to use of telephone lines, wire & mail fraud, drug use/trafficing and age of consent violations. You're literally trying to tell me about my own tribe and you don't have the slightest clue.
- tastyface 9mo ago
  Dunno about your friends, but I imagine the original, old school MIT hackers -- the ones who lockpicked doors for fun and fought tooth and nail against any restrictions on access to computer systems -- would chuckle at an infodump like this, not clutch their pearls.
- boston_clone 9mo ago
  it seems as though you’re reaching extraordinarily far back in time to apply a definition that simply doesn’t exist anymore. hell, the time period you’re referencing (…80 years ago!) is when “gay” still meant “happy”. obviously, you’re free to use whatever words you like, but your clinging to outdated terminology and being perpetually misunderstood is not a failure of other people.
  - busterarm 9mo ago
    It was the parent poster that reached for the idea of "prototypical hacker", but then missed the mark by several decades. Words have meaning. Also my usage very much matches early "computer hackers" in a cultural sense. If I was just going off of the word origin itself we'd be talking about horse and carriage drivers...