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>someday someone will come along and make a genuine artistic viable piece of work using ai And in the mean time, AI will continue to clutter creative spaces an

>someday someone will come along and make a genuine artistic viable piece of work using ai And in the mean time, AI will continue to clutter creative spaces and drown out actual hardworking artists, and people like you will co-opt what it means to be an artist by using tools that were trained on their work without consent.

anthonypasq 9mo ago
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- roywiggins 9mo ago
  Can artists compete with algorithms that push AI slop because it costs less to license?
  - anthonypasq 9mo ago
    can craft breweries compete with light beer slop because it costs less to produce? if the product is better people will pay more for it. yet lots of people love Bud Light
- miyoji 9mo ago
  > you sound like someone from the 1800's shouting about how photography should be banned and not allowed to crowd out hard working painters. I'm saying that you shouldn't call photographs paintings because they aren't paintings. I don't particularly care if people make AI "music" or "art" and I don't particularly care if they consume it (people have been consuming awful media for the entire history of humanity, they aren't going to stop because I say so), but if you give me a ham sandwich and call it a hamburger I am going to be annoyed and tell you that it isn't a hamburger and to stop calling it that because you're misleading people who actually appreciate hamburgers. AI "art" isn't art. I don't care whether you like it. It's like fractals or rock formations or birdsong - it may be aesthetically appealing to some people, but that isn't the definition of art.
  - roywiggins 9mo ago
    Similarly, people keep posting articles to HN that get upvoted which are substantially AI edited. They're never labeled as such, and it's unpleasant to find myself reading unlabeled ChatGPTese again. There's a Show HN up now that has an entirely generated readme, which is just... fine, I guess. I just don't want to engage with it. Ed: two Show HNs that are substantially AI generated readmes, now
  - jayGlow 9mo ago
    I would say trying to dictate what is and isn't art really goes against the spirit of art in general. plenty of art exists to push boundaries including what can be considered art.
- nottorp 9mo ago
  > if you cant create something that competes with AI slop Nothing can compete with AI slop when the ratio is 100000:1 AI slop vs real music. Look at Google search results... they're not all AI slop yet, but they're 100000:1 content mills vs useful results.

anthonypasq 9mo ago

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roywiggins 9mo ago
Can artists compete with algorithms that push AI slop because it costs less to license?
- anthonypasq 9mo ago
  can craft breweries compete with light beer slop because it costs less to produce? if the product is better people will pay more for it. yet lots of people love Bud Light
miyoji 9mo ago
> you sound like someone from the 1800's shouting about how photography should be banned and not allowed to crowd out hard working painters. I'm saying that you shouldn't call photographs paintings because they aren't paintings. I don't particularly care if people make AI "music" or "art" and I don't particularly care if they consume it (people have been consuming awful media for the entire history of humanity, they aren't going to stop because I say so), but if you give me a ham sandwich and call it a hamburger I am going to be annoyed and tell you that it isn't a hamburger and to stop calling it that because you're misleading people who actually appreciate hamburgers. AI "art" isn't art. I don't care whether you like it. It's like fractals or rock formations or birdsong - it may be aesthetically appealing to some people, but that isn't the definition of art.
- roywiggins 9mo ago
  Similarly, people keep posting articles to HN that get upvoted which are substantially AI edited. They're never labeled as such, and it's unpleasant to find myself reading unlabeled ChatGPTese again. There's a Show HN up now that has an entirely generated readme, which is just... fine, I guess. I just don't want to engage with it. Ed: two Show HNs that are substantially AI generated readmes, now
- jayGlow 9mo ago
  I would say trying to dictate what is and isn't art really goes against the spirit of art in general. plenty of art exists to push boundaries including what can be considered art.
nottorp 9mo ago
> if you cant create something that competes with AI slop Nothing can compete with AI slop when the ratio is 100000:1 AI slop vs real music. Look at Google search results... they're not all AI slop yet, but they're 100000:1 content mills vs useful results.